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Picture yourself spending some time with congenial friends, sharing your lives and pictures from your cell phones." They're curious about that cool game, song, movie, camping trip, art show, or other event that fascinated you. You talk about all kinds of stuff, poetry, styles, personal achievements, relationships, and bad days. You can share your inner child, and laugh together. They sympathetically listen to your feelings about serious topics like politics or climate change, even when they don't agree.

Personal validation comes from paying attention to one another, giving more than you get. Everyone respects you and themselves, despite our amazing range of personal tastes and interests. They'll tell you they don't agree with an idea or behavior without implying you're a bad person or somehow deficient. It's an "I'm OK, You're OK" kind of fellowship, where nobody tries to make himself look better by picking on somebody else.

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The Most Hated Woman in America (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Gary S Apr 19. 7 Replies

Before Aron Ra and Matt Dillahunty, before Dawkins or Dennett or Harris or even Hitchens, there was Madalyn Murray O'Hair.  In the midst of an America where Christianity was being flaunted as a defense against the godless communists of the Soviet…Continue

Tags: Frank Zindler, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, Madalyn Murray O'Hair

Proud Dad is REALLY Proud Now!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Todd Williams Apr 12. 16 Replies

As some of you may or may not know, my daughter is a television news producer, currently working in Nashville, Tennessee.  Her assignment is the morning news, which means she blasts herself up at umpti-ump in the morning to organize and prepare a…Continue

Tags: Emmy, news, television, daughter, dad

attacking ideas (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 1 Reply

Attacking ideas is a considerable portion of what we as atheists do.  Why attack ideas?  Ideas earn attack when they don't serve people, not just us but those who adopt said ideas, mistakenly thinking that they have value when they don't.  Our…Continue

Tags: ideas, Islam, TheraminTrees

bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 40 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

The Playboy Interview: Richard Dawkins

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Mar 28. 16 Replies

I suppose it was the news that Playboy magazine was returning nudes to its pages after a year's hiatus that sufficiently perked my curiosity to check them out again.  I hadn't looked at Playboy since perhaps 2008, when I began to recognize that I…Continue

Tags: Richard Dawkins, Playboy

God's Annual Performance Review (Betty Bowers)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Mar 19. 6 Replies

I don't know about you guys, but there wasn't a performance review I had in 30 years of field service that I didn't LOATHE.  It seems as though Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian, is up for turning the tables on the person you would expect would…Continue

Tags: review, performance, god, American's Best Christian, Betty Bowers

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Comment by The Flying Atheist on April 29, 2013 at 9:40pm

Joan, in response to your earlier post about me you mused, "I assume you, too, had to search for principles upon which you could build your life."  I never really searched for principles (or a philosophy per say) to live my life.  Rather, I'd say that my parents instilled a level of morality and ethics into me and my three siblings that I grew to learn had a degree of integrity that I could be proud of and happy to use as a guide.  At the same time I lived as closely as I could to being the true me, albeit with one major exception.....I was closeted to others about my already self-known homosexuality, not that I thought there was anything wrong with me, but out of embarrassment and fear of negative reactions.  But during my entire childhood I did manage to march to the beat of my own unique drum, and my family and I can still laugh about some of my eccentric and memorable episodes to this day.  

I started questioning religion during my high school years and definitely had an atheistic view cemented during my college years.  All these years since, I've led my life according to principles given to me by my parents and but also by my own moral standard taught to me through experience.  I'll be 49 this year but it was fairly recently, about five or six years ago, when I was reading about something I had never heard of, Secular Humanism, when the light bulb went off in my head and I experienced a revelation.  I was everything a Secular Humanist was!!  I didn't go searching for a philosophy, I kind of stumbled upon a label that described who I already was.

I would venture to say that if all you took away just one aspect from my parents, their religion, you'd be left with two people who are Secular Humanists.    

Comment by sk8eycat on April 29, 2013 at 7:55pm

I forgot to mention one of the main things that exploded in my brain when I was reading the buybull, and really thinking about what I was reading.  I have always been fascinated by all the sciences, but didn't have the math background or ability to get into college and major in one of them (and I was madly in love with skating until it started to hurt).  I have always wanted to know the TRUTH about everything.  I was still reading Genesis when I realized everything in it was written by flat-earthers, and stuff like Noah's Flood were physically impossible. At that point I began deliberately looking for other impossibilities.  At that time I wasn't aware of all the scholarly books and articles going back to the Enlightenment about the fact that the basis of Judaism and Islam, Abraham, was probably a myth, that archaeological evidence for the Exodus does not exist, and there is nothing written by either Jewish or Roman historians mentioning the crucificxion of a rabble-rousing rabbi during Passover.

(Nor was I aware then that the Sanhedrin would never have tried anybody for any religious "crime" during Passover. And they certainly would not have taken the matter to the Roman governor, and insisted that he order the execution of the "criminal.")

BUT by the time I got halfway through Revelation I was wondering what drugs the writer was on.  That was in the mid 1960s, and pot and LSD were beginning to make the rounds....  Ergot, or ergotamine was known, and used, for millennia in Rome and Egypt.

Anyway, I realized I had been reading and trying to believe fiction. And it wasn't nearly as much fun as Dick Francis' horse-racing mysteries...or even Perry Mason.  So I said, "Phphphbtbtbtttt!" And quit trying to force a triangular (the Trinity) block into a circular-reasoned orifice.

It took Heinlein's STRANGER IN A STRANGE LAND to make me "get" that communion is symbolic cannibaliam. Gag me with a spoon, Mary!

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 29, 2013 at 7:14pm
Comment by Joan Denoo on April 29, 2013 at 6:32pm

"The streets of Amsterdam are awash in the color orange in honor of the Netherlands' ruling House of Oranje-Nassau, as officials prepare for a once-in-a-generation rotation of royal titles — and the rest of the country gets ready to party."

"Tuesday, Queen Beatrix is to abdicate, Willem-Alexander become king, and his 9-year-old daughter Princess Catharina-Amalia become crown princess."

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 29, 2013 at 6:22pm

This string is just outstanding ... Ruth, excellent reference for "Men who hate women and women who love them";

"'Jets waive QB Tim Tebow.' There was no mention in that release of Tebow’s statistics with the team, perhaps in part because there were none worth mentioning";

The male bird holding the beak of the female; let me think, what can she do to reclaim her power?;

A new king for the Netherlands; may all your people flourish during your reign!

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on April 29, 2013 at 5:24pm

Debra Stevenson said

Why would anyone be friends with someone who thinks that your 'inherently inferior' to them?  That is a form of an abusive relationship, that is not a 'friendship'.

Indeed. But it's often the norm for women to love men who think that women are inherently inferior to men. Doublethink and denial, or self-deception, seem to go a long way in our culture.

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Comment by Lillie on April 29, 2013 at 3:01pm

Tom, at least you were not on the way to work when you were peed on. LOL

Comment by Plinius on April 29, 2013 at 2:09pm

I love that, thanks Patricia!

We expect a lot of noise tomorrow, most people are very busy to paint the country orange to honour our next king. I hope I'll find a quiet spot... 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 29, 2013 at 12:45pm

Carl, forgive me for using myself as referent, but that is what I know.

How can an ordained minister who is gay reconcile his beliefs with dogma? I don’t ask frivolously, but seriously?

In my case, the dogma supports domination of women, and I had to divorce that concept as I searched for a better way of living. All options were open for me, and it finally came to just good old-fashioned reality checking, options exploration, and critical thinking.

I understand how you could grow up in a family and a ”liberal, progressive gay friendly church”, feel good about yourself and became disillusioned with the dogma. I assume you, too, had to search for principles upon which you could build your life. 

Comment by sk8eycat on April 29, 2013 at 12:42pm

LMAO...I just read that the NY Jets let the Praying Man-tis, Timmy Tebow, go.

O, happy day! *snicker!* *snort!*

Proof again that Nothing Fails Like Prayer.

 

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