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Degrees of Doubt: The Claims and Credentials of Ravi Zacharias (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Chris on Wednesday. 1 Reply

Anyone here ever run onto an apologist by the name of Ravi Zacharias?  I've seen his name dropped multiple times on YouTube as supposedly being THE ONE APOLOGIST that no atheist wants to cross swords with, because of his facility with christian…Continue

Tags: Ravi Zacharias, Steve Baughman, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews

The Most Hated Woman in America (The Thinking Atheist)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Gary S Apr 19. 7 Replies

Before Aron Ra and Matt Dillahunty, before Dawkins or Dennett or Harris or even Hitchens, there was Madalyn Murray O'Hair.  In the midst of an America where Christianity was being flaunted as a defense against the godless communists of the Soviet…Continue

Tags: Frank Zindler, The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, Madalyn Murray O'Hair

Proud Dad is REALLY Proud Now!

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Todd Williams Apr 12. 16 Replies

As some of you may or may not know, my daughter is a television news producer, currently working in Nashville, Tennessee.  Her assignment is the morning news, which means she blasts herself up at umpti-ump in the morning to organize and prepare a…Continue

Tags: Emmy, news, television, daughter, dad

attacking ideas (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 1 Reply

Attacking ideas is a considerable portion of what we as atheists do.  Why attack ideas?  Ideas earn attack when they don't serve people, not just us but those who adopt said ideas, mistakenly thinking that they have value when they don't.  Our…Continue

Tags: ideas, Islam, TheraminTrees

bending truth, or "We Can All Be Manipulated" (TheraminTrees)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 4. 40 Replies

The following is one of TheraminTrees' most thorough-going pieces, wherein he looks at the process and techniques whereby a "religious" organization (which will sound VERY familiar to most of us, once introductions are made!) takes a person who…Continue

Tags: indoctrination, truth, manipulation, TheraminTrees

The Playboy Interview: Richard Dawkins

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Mar 28. 16 Replies

I suppose it was the news that Playboy magazine was returning nudes to its pages after a year's hiatus that sufficiently perked my curiosity to check them out again.  I hadn't looked at Playboy since perhaps 2008, when I began to recognize that I…Continue

Tags: Richard Dawkins, Playboy

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Comment by Plinius on November 12, 2016 at 5:09am

I understand your feelings, Ruth, and I've felt the same for quite some time. It's not just trump c.s., the countries of the world all seem to long for dictatorship. It's as if everyone is tired of reckoning with vulnerable groups, minorities, refugees, climate change, pollution, and a lot of other things.

The new trend is simplicity, nationalism, getting rich with any means, getting power no matter who suffers, dictatorship.

So we'll be here, doing what we think is right, whatever the government is or does. We can work on, you especially, because you're great in teaching climate changes.

Comment by Ian Mason on November 11, 2016 at 11:32pm

Quietly subversive, Joan. That is probably the way forward for the next few years. 

Ruth, the news here is that some of the leading politicians in the EU are going to have a word or two with "Mr. Trump" about how things work. It's a bit unnerving to think that he worries the conservatives in other countries.

There's a minor deity named "Anoia" who's the godess of things that get stuck in draws: I wonder if she has a relative who influences computers?

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on November 11, 2016 at 11:13pm

Sorry I've been absent. Got discouraged when replies I tried to post evaporated, sometimes because of a wrong keystroke on my part. Funny how that usually happens when a half hour's work is all ready for posting.

Frankly I'm in a funk, struggling to reorient myself and make sense of the world order. That election seemed to be a tipping point into my worst nightmare on so many levels.

I get requests for donations from The Southern Poverty Law Center, Nature Conservancy, and a gazillion other progressive organizations with 100% obsolete approaches. They pretend our representatives and senators will act on polite petitions which counter the interests of the corporate interests to whom they belong. They pretend we didn't just put a Neo-Nazi into power, dedicated to destroying renewable energy and all social progress since 1900. Bill McKibben still expects the Standing Rock protest will somehow succeed. It's as the left now inhabits a fact free bubble. I spend time reading opinions at Altenet, leaders I respect, etc. No coherent response has yet coalesced, from what I can tell. Yes we must organize better, resist. It's all wishy-washy.

Other news is bad for the climate, not only that the election will at least accelerate 1°C additional rise by 2100. Also we just learned that climate sensitivity is nonlinear. This video is dumbed down, the source article, Nonlinear climate sensitivity and its implications for future green..., is quite technical. It kind of says we could have 7°C rise by 2100, but Robert Scribbler thinks it only predicts 5°C rise. There's a wide margin of error, but the bottom line is (during the last 8 glacial cycles) climate sensitivity  got stronger when the planet warmed. And since it only takes 4°C rise to destroy civilization, 5°C rise in the next 85 years is horrific.

It's as if - within a few days -  the entire world shifted gears, the break pedal stopped working all together, and the steering wheel is shaking so much it'll wrench off as soon as 2017 begins.

This must be worse than what people in Germany went through in the first days after Hitler won, because it's not just world war and genocide at stake. It's the first downhill bump in the existential crisis rollercoaster.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 11, 2016 at 2:02pm

Oligarchs, get ready for the onslot; The dispossessed of the world, the hungry ones around the globe, the thirsty ones from high and low altitudes, could form a coalition of gigantic proportion and overcome the corrupt local, state and national governments, the one percenters, the corporations, not by violent means, but by nonviolent ones. 

Food: People, young and old, can grow their own food; 

Housing: People can build their own shelters; 

Education: Parents, Grandparents, teachers can teach;

Health care: Folk Medicine offers some viable options; 

Transportation: Walking may become an option; 

Work: Tasks performed to create goods and services closer to homes;

Governance: Smaller unites of neighborhoods, town, cities, grow;

Insurance: Neighbor helping neighbor. 

If we want to have any control over our lives, we have to make some basic changes in how we live, work, and play. Downsizing, learning new skills, taking the strings away from puppet-masters and take back control. 

I think the first thing we need to do is stop paying taxes, i.e The Trump Taxes Model; fill the prisons with tax evaders. There could be an assemblage of bright minds and strong backs to resist the TrumpTrends. 

Comment by Loren Miller on November 11, 2016 at 1:54pm

Wow, Ian!  This is a new quote to me and a damned good one at that.  Thank you for posting!

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Comment by Ian Mason on November 11, 2016 at 1:47pm

Joan, I have no idea how the native populations (or remnants thereof) are surviving in the U.S. The public image, such as it is seems to be a mixture of drink and casinos. It's painful to read your account of such inhumanity and degredation. I hope things improve soon.

Yes, joy can be cultivated inside and like a garden needs regular tending. That's something you're good at. You're also good at inspiring the rest of us to do the same. You must have been a great teacher.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 11, 2016 at 1:47pm

and drought. The desertification of the Earth appears before our eyes. 

Comment by Ian Mason on November 11, 2016 at 1:39pm

Daniel, you may be right. The current migration is a bit of an unknown quantity because headlines beat comparative statistics in the public consciousness, so I don't know if more people are on the move. Those that do move are driven by two things: poverty and war.

First: imagine how a family father feels when all of them work long hours in a death-trap of a shirt factory in Bangladesh and still can't afford schools and doctors. "To Hell with this, I'm going to where they wear the shirts" would be a reasonable reaction. Migration that's driven this way by poverty is not based on a wish to intergrate in a new homeland, it's basic survival instinct.

Second: the current situation in Syria is causing havoc. For the first three years there was a considerable UN relief effort in neighbouring countries but a couple of years ago donor nations cut their contributions. The result was that food rations to women and children in the refugee camps was reduced to 50% and men recieved nothing. Again, a recipe for trouble. People do whatever they need to to survive.

Short-sighted and exploitative policies by Western governments blow up with a bang. Of course, said governments do well out of it by playing "blame the foreigners" all the way to the polling stations.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 11, 2016 at 1:29pm

Ian, A great song and performer!"

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