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Comment by Eric on October 26, 2009 at 2:32am
I came back to this page, and saw two more comments by Ralph. First I thought I can't believe I missed those posts earlier, then I realized I was expecting the newer posts to appear on top above my previous posts, not below my earlier posts, so it's my mistake for misreading this page, not a software bug! :-)

I can't believe there's a Facebook group called Fuck Judaism. Why would FB allow such a group?? I am gonna have to check it out!

There was recently a guy who sought out anti-semitic groups and asked others on FB to flag these groups for FB, and he got himself kicked off FB. Some of these FB groups used Arabic writing, so I couldn't read the text and could only take his word for it that they were antisemitic. But I don't understand why FB didn't support his efforts. Sorry, I don't know his name or the name of his group, he's gone now and so is his page listing these groups.

I second Ralph's idea for amending the description of this group, adding the proviso he gives. Owner of this group -- Matthew F. -- what do you say? :-)
Comment by Eric on October 26, 2009 at 1:35am
Ok Ralph, I stand corrected!
Comment by Ralph Dumain on October 26, 2009 at 1:23am
In India, you betcha, among Hindu fascists. There's a history of admiration for Hitler, too. I suspect, though, that you can't blame only the Christian religion for anti-semitism among ex-Christians in the USA. Remember that the stereotypes about Jews pervade the society and are not transmitted primarily via religious upbringing anymore.
Comment by Eric on October 26, 2009 at 1:19am
Ralph, I have another question for you - does this atheistic anti-semitism you speak of only come from atheists who are ex-Christians? I wonder if anti-semitism is part and parcel of some flavors of Christianity, so maybe they haven't fully left the Christian part of themselves behind when they became atheists? I wonder if there's such a thing as anti-semitism in other cultures like in non-Christian places outside of the Middle East like in India.
Comment by Ralph Dumain on October 26, 2009 at 1:16am
I could give many examples, but I suggest you begin with a Facebook group called "Fuck Judaism". Aside from being infantile, it's full of vile slanders against Jews.
Comment by Ralph Dumain on October 26, 2009 at 1:14am
Maybe a discussion thread should be started. I mean attacking the character of Jews, not just Judaism as a religion. There is a history of atheist anti-Semitism, from the magazine The Truth Seeker to the O'Hairs. Secondly, a substantial percentage of ex-Christians even today out to get revenge on Biblical religion are pretty damn ignorant of the history of either the Jewish people or religion, and lack the curiosity about anybody in the world besides themselves.
Comment by Eric on October 26, 2009 at 1:14am
Sorry, I meant "Atheists coming from Judaism," that's the line I saw.
Comment by Eric on October 26, 2009 at 1:12am
It just occurred to me, if this group is described on this website as "Atheists from Judaism" then seems to be this group should be called something more like Atheist Ex-Jews, not Jewish Atheists. Somebody made a mistake somewhere.
Comment by Ralph Dumain on October 26, 2009 at 1:11am
I don't know what the group founder intended, but clearly that is not an inclusive description. "Jewish atheists" should be defined as coming from the Jewish people, and one could add "or the Jewish religion". But actually, I don't even like such descriptions. I think all national and ethnic groups should add a proviso "and all who are knowledgeable or have an investment in this topic." If people come into these groups to disrupt them, hopefully they can be thrown out.
Comment by Eric on October 26, 2009 at 1:08am
Ralph, how do you mean, anti-Semitism among atheists? How exactly does tat manifest itself? In the sense of being opposed to all religion or theism, that wouldn't be anti-semitism.

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