LINGUAPHILES & SESQUIPEDALIANS

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LINGUAPHILES & SESQUIPEDALIANS

LINGUAPHILES & SESQUIPEDALIANS is a group for people who love languages, words, and grammar.

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Latest Activity: Apr 26

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LINGUAPHILES & SESQUIPEDALIANS is a group for people who love languages, words, and grammar.

The only requirement for joining this group is that you possess a modicum of interest in languages, etymology, grammar, punctuation, and pronunciation. You do not have to be erudite or scholarly; you do not have to be a linguist or grammarian. You just have to have the desire to learn new things about language, or share the knowledge you possess.

The purpose of this group will be to help us explore the diversity of language, hone our grammar and spelling skills, understand correct word usage, expand our vocabulary, explore language and word history, and find new ways to communicate.

How we talk about things is equally important as what we talk about. Language is a part of our thinking, speaking, and writing; it is mind, tongue, and hand. It is about how we relate to other people and understand the world around us. It is communication and the exchange of ideas. It is learning, empathy, history, and politics. It can persuade, disarm, conquer, cajole, unnerve, offend, shame, enrich, encourage, inspire, destroy, or sustain. It is all these things and more.

However, the emphasis of LINGUAPHILES & SESQUIPEDALIANS is not on writing and publication. If you are interested in these topics, please join the group ATHEIST WRITERS. That does not mean that you cannot ask questions about writing here, it is just that we are not trying to compete with the well-established writer's group. I simply recommend that you use your best judgment and post your discussion in the group that best fits the topic.

The focus here will obviously be on the English language, but it is not restricted to English only. Topics can include correct spelling and grammar issues, etymology, vocabulary and usage, language history and lexicography, dialects and idioms, trivia, and resources such as books and websites.


Books & DVDs:
The Adventure of English (DVD)
The Bedford Handbook
The Big Book of Beastly Mispronunciations
Eats, Shoots & Leaves
Fowler's Modern English Usage,
Globish: How the English Language Became the World's Language
Gossip, Grooming, and the Evolution of Language
Metaphors We Live By
Modern American Usage: A Guide
The Mother Tongue
The Mountain Man's Field Guide to Grammar
Origins
Philosophy in the Flesh
Speaking in Tongues: The History of Language
The Story of Human Language
The Stuff of Thought: Language as a Window into Human Nature
There's a Word for It


Other A|N groups of interest:

Nexus Book Club
Atheist Librarians
Athiest Writers


External Links:
Dictionary.com
Thesaurus.com
Reference.com
Wold Wide Words
Modern Language Association
PrefixSuffix.com
DrMardy.com
DrGrammar.org
AskOxford.com
Common Errors in English
The Global Language Monitor
Guide to Grammar and Style
The Elements of Style
How to Speak and Write Correctly
World Wide Words
Online Etymology Dictionary
The Rosetta Project
The Phrontistery
Charles Harrington Elster

Discussion Forum

Decline in writing accuracy.

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Idaho Spud Apr 5. 96 Replies

25 Language Song

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Chris Jan 25. 1 Reply

Language as a Tool of State Repression

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jan 9. 0 Replies

Fun with English adjective order

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by tom sarbeck Oct 6, 2017. 3 Replies

Eviscerating Language

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by tom sarbeck May 17, 2017. 3 Replies

Not face = universal language

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Mar 28, 2016. 1 Reply

Pronouns for Gender Fluidity

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Kelly Jan 13, 2016. 1 Reply

Pronouns for Gender Fluidity

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jan 13, 2016. 0 Replies

Enlightenment words.

Started by Gerald Payne. Last reply by Plinius Sep 17, 2015. 2 Replies

Wandering Words

Started by tom sarbeck. Last reply by Grinning Cat Dec 7, 2014. 5 Replies

One Letter Words, a Dictionary

Started by tom sarbeck Aug 7, 2014. 0 Replies

Emotionally loaded vowels

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Aug 1, 2014. 1 Reply

Automatic captions and fiberglass growth factor

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Loren Miller Feb 23, 2014. 2 Replies

Changes to word meanings.

Started by Idaho Spud. Last reply by Dogly Feb 7, 2014. 4 Replies

Typos and Other Sources of Humor

Started by Glenn Sogge. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Nov 26, 2013. 162 Replies

Rape culture embedded in language

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Mar 8, 2013. 1 Reply

Throw Grammar from the Train

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Comment by Natalie A Sera on September 18, 2011 at 6:28pm

Carl, yes. Possibly more so in England than in the US, because we tend to be more conservative. But the example I'm thinking of is got/gotten. The British say "It's got cold tonight" and we would say "It's gotten cold." We have retained the archaic "gotten" form. Also, if you ask the question, "Have you done it?", the British would say "Yes, I have done." whereas we would say, "Yes, I have."

Too bad I wasn't smart enough to go on in linguistics when I got my BA degree -- it remains the love of my life, but I was too interested in getting married and having babies at the time!

Comment by Carl Pastor on September 18, 2011 at 5:58pm

has englisg grammar changed in the last 100 years?

 

Comment by Carl Pastor on September 18, 2011 at 5:50pm

of course. ive watched the verb ability conjugation rareru change to reru and my wife tells me many young people sayr for d recently which i cannot seem to hear

 

Comment by Sean Murphy on September 18, 2011 at 5:28pm
All living languages change that fast. The only stable languages are the dead ones.
Comment by Natalie A Sera on September 18, 2011 at 4:03pm

Carl, we're talking about 2 different things. Yes, "midori" is a noun, but easily changed to an adjective by adding "no". And "aoi" can be changed to a noun by saying "aoiro" or just "ao". And, of course, the Japanese create lots of color words by saying "the color of _____" as "_______iro". The words "kiiro", yellow (don't know derivation), "chairo" brown (tea color), and "haiiro" gray (ash color) were all created that way. "Momoiro" (peach color) used to be the word for pink, but by now "pinku" has taken over, although momoiro is still in the dictionary! :-)

But what I am talking about is the way the perception of color has changed. When I was teaching Japanese in high school about 10 years ago, I had Japanese college students helping me, and one day I referred to something that classically would have been aoi (don't remember what), and the student corrected me by saying it was midori. I had been carefully taught 40 years earlier by Japanese native speakers where the border between ao and midori was, and here this young'un was contradicting me! Goes to show that language can change pretty rapidly.

And as a side note, I remember being VERY irritated when people started using "one on one" in English, when there was the perfectly good "one to one" that was already there!

Comment by Carl Pastor on September 18, 2011 at 2:43pm
anyone know "dead head"?  no its not a reference to a tea partyer, it meant a very waterlogged log which was now verticle with its top about equal to the water surface
Comment by Carl Pastor on September 18, 2011 at 1:57pm
the thing is aoi is an adjective. so if i want to desdribe my car with an adjective i use aoii kuruma. if im talking about the color of my car, a noun, i call it sorairo
Comment by Carl Pastor on September 18, 2011 at 1:26pm

natalie, aoi is the japanese word for both blue and green. it is the word used for green traffic lights now as well as for the color of sky, aozora,

japanese also has a word for green, midori, but it's a noun not an adjective.  people also use sorairo sky color for skyblue. my car is sorairo

Comment by Sean Murphy on September 18, 2011 at 12:21pm

@ Dallas Gaytheist:

I recently saw someone make a similar comment on TV.

"You're overwhelmed, Mr Freeze is underwhelmed, why can't anybody just be whelmed anymore?"

Comment by Natalie A Sera on September 17, 2011 at 5:58pm
Colors and words -- interesting! Historically, the Japanese had words for green and blue, but the border between them was in a different place: dark or kelly green was considered blue, and lime green was considered green. So they had "blue" grass, and "blue" traffic lights, although we would definitely consider them green. What is interesting is that, with Western influence, the usage of these words has changed within my lifetime. When I first went to Japan in 1968, other things with the same hue as grass or traffic lights were still called blue, but now they're being called green. The only linguistic anachronisms that persist are the aforementioned grass and traffic lights, but if you ask them, they will say they are really green. So I wonder if the brains of the young folks would exhibit differences from the brains of the older people!
 

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