LINGUAPHILES & SESQUIPEDALIANS

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LINGUAPHILES & SESQUIPEDALIANS

LINGUAPHILES & SESQUIPEDALIANS is a group for people who love languages, words, and grammar.

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LINGUAPHILES & SESQUIPEDALIANS is a group for people who love languages, words, and grammar.

The only requirement for joining this group is that you possess a modicum of interest in languages, etymology, grammar, punctuation, and pronunciation. You do not have to be erudite or scholarly; you do not have to be a linguist or grammarian. You just have to have the desire to learn new things about language, or share the knowledge you possess.

The purpose of this group will be to help us explore the diversity of language, hone our grammar and spelling skills, understand correct word usage, expand our vocabulary, explore language and word history, and find new ways to communicate.

How we talk about things is equally important as what we talk about. Language is a part of our thinking, speaking, and writing; it is mind, tongue, and hand. It is about how we relate to other people and understand the world around us. It is communication and the exchange of ideas. It is learning, empathy, history, and politics. It can persuade, disarm, conquer, cajole, unnerve, offend, shame, enrich, encourage, inspire, destroy, or sustain. It is all these things and more.

However, the emphasis of LINGUAPHILES & SESQUIPEDALIANS is not on writing and publication. If you are interested in these topics, please join the group ATHEIST WRITERS. That does not mean that you cannot ask questions about writing here, it is just that we are not trying to compete with the well-established writer's group. I simply recommend that you use your best judgment and post your discussion in the group that best fits the topic.

The focus here will obviously be on the English language, but it is not restricted to English only. Topics can include correct spelling and grammar issues, etymology, vocabulary and usage, language history and lexicography, dialects and idioms, trivia, and resources such as books and websites.


Books & DVDs:
The Adventure of English (DVD)
The Bedford Handbook
The Big Book of Beastly Mispronunciations
Eats, Shoots & Leaves
Fowler's Modern English Usage,
Globish: How the English Language Became the World's Language
Gossip, Grooming, and the Evolution of Language
Metaphors We Live By
Modern American Usage: A Guide
The Mother Tongue
The Mountain Man's Field Guide to Grammar
Origins
Philosophy in the Flesh
Speaking in Tongues: The History of Language
The Story of Human Language
The Stuff of Thought: Language as a Window into Human Nature
There's a Word for It


Other A|N groups of interest:

Nexus Book Club
Atheist Librarians
Athiest Writers


External Links:
Dictionary.com
Thesaurus.com
Reference.com
Wold Wide Words
Modern Language Association
PrefixSuffix.com
DrMardy.com
DrGrammar.org
AskOxford.com
Common Errors in English
The Global Language Monitor
Guide to Grammar and Style
The Elements of Style
How to Speak and Write Correctly
World Wide Words
Online Etymology Dictionary
The Rosetta Project
The Phrontistery
Charles Harrington Elster

Discussion Forum

Decline in writing accuracy.

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25 Language Song

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Not face = universal language

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Pronouns for Gender Fluidity

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Pronouns for Gender Fluidity

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jan 13. 0 Replies

Enlightenment words.

Started by Gerald Payne. Last reply by Plinius Sep 17, 2015. 2 Replies

Wandering Words

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One Letter Words, a Dictionary

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Emotionally loaded vowels

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Aug 1, 2014. 1 Reply

Automatic captions and fiberglass growth factor

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Loren Miller Feb 23, 2014. 2 Replies

Changes to word meanings.

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Typos and Other Sources of Humor

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Rape culture embedded in language

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Txtng and the future of English

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Two layers of language

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Feb 22, 2013. 0 Replies

Text-mining stylistic and thematic connections

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Steph S. Aug 28, 2012. 1 Reply

What makes a memorable quote?

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Tony Carroll May 10, 2012. 4 Replies

Throw Grammar from the Train

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Comment by Keith Brian Johnson on September 22, 2011 at 1:24am
I hope it's only a *small* debate.  I understand wanting--and have argued for--the retention of standards of English usage over time; however, where meaning is clearly unaffected and where either form will be (or at least should be) understood by any reasonably proficient English speaker, I should think we would give people a pass if they used the "wrong" plural.  Aside from that, of course, is whether or not "conundrum" has the right etymology to properly be pluralized "conundra," which is a question I am not qualified to answer.
Comment by annet on September 21, 2011 at 9:20pm

Today I looked up the plural of conundrum.  There is a big debate about whether it is conundrums or conundra.

The comments are very funny if you feel like reading some linguaphiles going at it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-5253,00.html

 

Comment by Carl Pastor on September 20, 2011 at 11:52am
heh, yes but given the japanese habit of dropping the subject of the sentence, i never hear tachi or ra used in ordinary conversation.  it seems to me that its used mostly by politicians to spread responsibility for what ever they are proposing
Comment by Natalie A Sera on September 20, 2011 at 7:49am
Carl, Japanese DOES have plurals, at least for people, such as -tachi (anatatachi), and -ra (warera). But there are no commonly used plurals for other nouns. That doesn't present a problem, though, because you can always use an adjective or prefix such as takusan or sukoshi or suu- or whatever, to indicate that you are talking about more than one thing. It fascinates me how different languages manage to get the same information across in different ways! :-)
Comment by Carl Pastor on September 20, 2011 at 1:47am
wow, thank you for the info. btw, japanese has no plural either.
Comment by Keith Brian Johnson on September 20, 2011 at 1:15am
That seems similar to the apparently decreased appreciation of the difference between "less" and "fewer."  I am not sure this is really a bad thing, since it amounts to a recognition that number is a species of the genus amount.  But it does seem less precise than does preserving the distinction between "how much" and "how many"--although nobody seems to be bothered by using "more" both for continuous and distinct quantities.  Maybe it's because quantum mechanics makes us view everything as quantized anyway!
Comment by annet on September 19, 2011 at 7:33pm

I'm a wannabe on this topic but here is something I found on the interwebs regarding a recent "change" in American grammar 

 

A large amount of pigeons flew by.

vs.

A large number of pigeons flew by.

 

English once distinguished nouns referring to substances that are always in the singular by using amount for singular substances and number for countable objects in the plural...

 

source: http://www.alphadictionary.com/articles/bad_grammar.html

 

 

Comment by Carl Pastor on September 19, 2011 at 3:30pm
im prolly confused, but i thot those differences were between american and british english
Comment by Natalie A Sera on September 19, 2011 at 2:57pm
Carl, aren't the differences between have/have done and got/gotten grammatical?
Comment by Carl Pastor on September 19, 2011 at 2:27pm
heh, the differences between brit and yank english are interesting to say the least. but can i have a few examples of changes in yank english grammar in the last 100 years? oh and hello fern! welcome
 

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