LOVERS OF SHAKESPEARE is a group for fans of the Bard. Topics are open to just about anything Shakespeare.

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To be or not to be, that is the question;
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing, end them. To die, to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to — 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep, perchance to dream. Ay, there's the rub,
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come,
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause.

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Discussion Forum

Re-Imagining Shakespeare for the 21st Century

Started by Christopher Wilton. Last reply by Jaume Dec 29, 2009. 5 Replies

Alternate punctuation in Shaky's most famous quote

Started by Jaume. Last reply by Lynne Williamson Aug 20, 2009. 6 Replies

What did Shakespeare think of religion?

Started by D'Holbach. Last reply by A Former Member Aug 12, 2009. 10 Replies

Villains in mainstream culture

Started by Jaume. Last reply by Jaume Aug 10, 2009. 3 Replies

Jude Law as Hamlet

Started by Elessarina. Last reply by Elessarina Aug 8, 2009. 4 Replies

Shakespeare by Bill Bryson

Started by Elessarina. Last reply by Elessarina Apr 14, 2009. 2 Replies

Aha! moments.

Started by Ian Mason. Last reply by A Former Member Jan 25, 2009. 4 Replies

Authorship of Shakespeare's Plays

Started by Chrys Stevenson. Last reply by Jas Brimstone Jan 11, 2009. 5 Replies

Avoiding pejorative drama

Started by Clarence Dember. Last reply by Ian Mason Jan 7, 2009. 2 Replies


Started by Stewart Paterson. Last reply by Stewart Paterson Dec 17, 2008. 2 Replies

Shakespearean Plays I've Seen

Started by Chrys Stevenson. Last reply by Father Nature Dec 6, 2008. 9 Replies

The 18th Sonnet

Started by Clarence Dember. Last reply by A Former Member Dec 3, 2008. 3 Replies

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Comment by Christopher Wilton on December 19, 2009 at 9:23pm
I really want to get into Richard III and Tempest but can't seem to find the time. Though I might just watch MacBeth tonight, or should I say this morning, it's just gone 3am here in Britain.

BTW: Have you read Terry Pratchett's discworld novel "Wyrd Sisters" there's some fun Shakespeare parodies to be found in there? Plus Terry is a (fellow) member of the British Humanist Association, which for me is always a plus.
Comment by Christopher Wilton on December 19, 2009 at 7:18pm
No I haven't, not recently at any rate; I tend to have an aversion to the Shakespeare I was forced to absorb in high-school. I've yet to go back to MacBeth, Julius Caesar or Romeo & Juliet (all of which I read in school).

As for Olivier I find his portrayals dull, his acting seems (seemed) wooden and expressionless; as if he's just reciting the words rather than adopting a role.

That's not to say his film productions weren't great in various other ways, but clearly if the lead role is compromised the whole production is undermined.

Or, perhaps its a generational thing, and I'm just too young (24, I think? :-S) to get his whole take on Shakespeare; perhaps its truer to the tradition, but I just don't like it.
Comment by Christopher Wilton on December 19, 2009 at 12:11pm
I'm a late comer to Shakespeare - probably like most people in Britain (those that don't completely hate Shakespeare that is); I'm going to have to be boring and say Hamlet is my favourite (for now). But I can't stand Laurence Olivier's portrayals of Shakespeare. >:/
Comment by Rikka on September 27, 2009 at 9:43pm
writing a paper comparing homosocial relationships in Romeo and Juliet and Antony and Cleopatra

it's kicking my butt. resources would be appreciated!
Comment by Jaume on September 10, 2009 at 2:25pm
Aye, I'm quite fond of his 'fig tree speech'. Almost made me wet my pants.
Comment by Jaume on September 10, 2009 at 2:02pm
@Dallas: yes, although I skipped bits here and there. I found it boring at times. His worst play I've read so far.
Comment by Rikka on September 10, 2009 at 12:02pm
I'm taking a Shakespeare: Tragedies class this semester. We traditionally get to choose one tragedy and one dark comedy of our curriculum and for serious the kids in my class chose Othello [for the tragedy] and I was quite unhappy. I am in severe dislike with that play. D:
Comment by Jaume on September 7, 2009 at 8:40am
Did you know Timon of Athens is based on a real character? Here's what Plutarch wrote about him:

This Timon was a citizen of Athens, and lived much about the Peloponnesian war, as may be seen by the comedies of Aristophanes and Plato, in which he is ridiculed as the hater and enemy of mankind. He avoided and repelled the approaches of everyone, but embraced with kisses and the greatest show of affection Alcibiades, then in his hot youth. And when Apemantus was astonished, and demanded the reason, he replied that he knew this young man would one day do infinite mischief to the Athenians. He never admitted anyone into his company, except at times this Apemantus, who was of the same sort of temper, and was an imitator of his way of life. At the celebration of the festival of flagons, these two kept the feast together, and Apemantus saying to him, "What a pleasant party, Timon!" "It would be," he answered, "if you were away." One day he got up in a full assembly on the speaker's place, and when there was a dead silence and great wonder at so unusual a sight, he said, "Ye men of Athens, I have a little plot of ground, and in it grows a fig-tree, on which many citizens have been pleased to hang themselves; and now, having resolved to build in that place, I wished to announce it publicly that any of you who may be desirous may go and hang yourselves before I cut it down." He died and was buried at Halae, near the sea, where it so happened that, after his burial, a land-slip took place on the point of the shore, and the sea, flowing in, surrounded his tomb, and made it inaccessible to the foot of man. It bore this inscription:

Here am I laid, my life of misery done.
Ask not my name, I curse you every one.

And this epitaph was made by himself while yet alive; that which is more generally known is by Callimachus:

Timon, the misanthrope, am I below.
Go, and revile me, traveler, only go.
Comment by Rikka on August 12, 2009 at 5:04pm
we're all entitled to our opinions, Dallas :P

There's also the 1999 Midsummer's Night Dream and maybe some of the Henry's were redone in the '90s as well? I can't recall.
Comment by Rikka on August 12, 2009 at 12:53pm
I think Romeo+Juliet was made to be enjoyed by us youngins :P Though I do wish Clare Danes hadn't been picked for Juliet... Leonardo DiCaprio did a fairly decent job, though I'm not sure that anyone can top the Olivia Hussey/Leonard Whiting pairing of Zefrirelli's version...

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