Naturalism is the understanding that there is a single, natural world as shown by science, and that we are completely included in it. - Thomas W Clark

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Comment by Alice on December 10, 2012 at 7:15pm

Death is terrifying - but when you unpack it - what was it like to experience before you were conceived?  That is the same experience you will have after death - it might be scary at first - but really there is absolutely nothing to fear - as there is nothing to experience.  What it does point to is that we have a gift - we have this one life - we have joy, pain, sadness and euphoric experiences.  Live your life to the full - enjoy each and every moment.  Savoir your life, and cherish it fully for all the gamut of experience you have.  Be in this present moment - because the present moment is all that you will ever have.  Learn how to be content in yourself in each moment beyond the material world of what you have or having got in life.  If you are hungry, accept that hunger, realise that there was no other way it could have been.  If you are fed, loved and have something to look forward to, realise that this is as good as life gets.  Enjoy :)

Comment by Tabitha McCoy on December 10, 2012 at 9:57am

Ah, I see. That does make sense. And yes, it is a pretty "far out" statement (lol!). So, when we die, our consciousness ceases to exist? There's no more "me"? It's almost terrifying...

Comment by Alice on December 9, 2012 at 10:43pm

I don't think we know much about most animals and their experiences - but if we do have greater awareness or consciousness then I would put it down to complexity and advantageous evolutionary selection.

Sounds like a 'far out' statement. We are all connected in the causal web of all things - but the being that is me can only subjectively experience what it does so long as I am alive. But yes, we are made of star dust and the atoms that make us up will live on in different forms once we are dead.

Comment by Tabitha McCoy on December 9, 2012 at 8:59pm

Quantum physics! "You cannot observe something without changing it." (Right?? Or am I getting mixed up here?) And I've always liked the scientific method. I've always liked science. I just sometimes don't always get "into" it or what have you, because sometimes I get bored with it, and then I feel bad because once you get past the cut and dry stuff, science is so fascinating!

And yes, getting our own needs met is a good thing. We need to care for ourselves in order to/before we care for others. 

I watched the Naturalism video above. So, we really don't have an immaterial soul?? It seems so strange to me because I've been told my whole life I have one...but it makes sense that we are completely and totally natural human creatures experiencing life in a natural, continuously growing and dying world.'s so WEIRD! What is consciousness then? How is it that we have an awareness of ourselves and the world around us and most animals don't? is it because of our "higher" brain functions?

Also (sorry, long post lol), I read once "All matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves." (If you know where that's from, kudos to you ;) ) What do you think? Or anyone else for that matter.

Comment by Alice on December 8, 2012 at 10:20pm

Reality is totally altered by out perception - that is why we use the scientific method in order to verify our theories.  Well-being is important to most life on earth - in terms of getting our needs met and I think should be put first.  Science and understanding reality can assist us in gaining greater well-being in our lives. :)

Comment by Tabitha McCoy on December 8, 2012 at 6:25pm

Alice-- I am interested in what is true about reality. I sometimes think that ones reality is altered by our perception, but not so drastically (like what the New Agers say). I also want to pursue a sense of well-being because I want to feel good about others and myself, because that's healthy (lol).

Comment by Alice on December 7, 2012 at 8:01pm

Tabitha - are you interested in what is true about reality?  Or do you just wish to pursue a sense of well-being regardless of what is true about reality?  The answers to these questions effects a persons worldview. :)

Comment by Tabitha McCoy on December 7, 2012 at 9:37am

Aaand I'm back! hahaha sorry it's been so long since I've commented on anything. I have a tendency to go back and forth between being a strong atheist and being pagan....paganism has always had a strong pull for me, but then I discovered pantheism. I love it! It describes what I love about nature in a philosophical, idealistic way and it's even logical! Also, humanism has caught my eye, and I like that too. So what have I missed these past several months (lol)? 

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 4, 2012 at 7:00pm

Gee, this probably is not the correct place to post this, but I find it so intriguing, and relate to knowing there is an explanation that makes sense. so her goes:

Nature Blows My Mind! The Strange Snow Formations Called Penitentes

Is this the work of magic? No! of course not, it is the work of natural forces, "peaks, where mass loss is only due to sublimation, will remain, as well as the steep walls, which intercept only a minimum of solar radiation. In the troughs, the ablation is enhanced, leading to a downward growth of penitentes."

There! That is what happens. 

More explanation in the article. 

Comment by bobh on July 28, 2012 at 11:45pm

i keep living for the chance that someday life will be discovered elsewhere.


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