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A group for those of us who like reading and books. Fiction, non-fiction, drama, poetry... everything goes.

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Books of Interest to Atheists and Skeptics
Breaking The Spell by Daniel Dennett
A Devil's Chaplain, by Richard Dawkins
The End of Faith, by Sam Harris
The God Delusion, by Richard Dawkins
God is Not Great, by Christopher Hitchens
Godless, by Dan Barker
Letter to a Christian Nation, by Sam Harris
Why I am not a Christian, by Bertrand Russell

Sites for Bibliotaphs
Audible.com
BookCrossing.com
BookMooch.com
The Internet Archive
LibraryThing.com
LibriVox.org
Project Gutenburg
Shelfari.com

Discussion Forum

Question about The Dresden Files.

Started by Joseph P Oct 11, 2016. 0 Replies

The Last Blade of Grass

Started by Robert Brown May 7, 2015. 0 Replies

Top 5 Books on Atheism

Started by Steph S.. Last reply by Gerald Payne Apr 30, 2015. 5 Replies

Why do they all have "happy endings"

Started by Cory D Wells. Last reply by sk8eycat Jan 22, 2015. 5 Replies

New books on the secular life

Started by Nick Bottom. Last reply by Randall Smith Oct 23, 2014. 1 Reply

POLLY AND THE ONE AND ONLY WORLD

Started by Don. Last reply by Don Sep 13, 2014. 1 Reply

Haruki Murakami

Started by Nick Bottom. Last reply by Michael Mann Sep 7, 2014. 1 Reply

"Cli-fi"

Started by Don. Last reply by Don Aug 31, 2014. 4 Replies

top 10

Started by Jeffrey. Last reply by Nick Bottom Aug 23, 2014. 17 Replies

Robert Jordan "Wheel of Time" fans?

Started by Jenn Wiffen. Last reply by Joseph P Sep 10, 2012. 1 Reply

Currently Reading: American Gods by Neil Gaiman

Started by The Big Blue Frog. Last reply by Cory D Wells Jul 24, 2012. 8 Replies

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Comment by The Big Blue Frog on February 2, 2011 at 9:03am
Christians are usually the first to stand up and complain about "hate crimes" legislation, because they claim that hate crimes are the equivalent of thought crimes, and we shouldn't be punishing thought crimes. However, their own Savior said that if a man has lust for a woman who is not his wife, he's already committed adultery. That fits the classic definition of thought crime.
Comment by Ian Mason on February 2, 2011 at 12:55am
Good article, Tony. How about the part of the Sermon on the Mount where JC is quoted as saying that even "bad thoughts" ( adultery, anger "in the heart") will be punished? Christianity goes even further that Judaism in deciding what's right and wrong.
Comment by Tony Davis on February 1, 2011 at 7:33pm

All,

Just posted an article on the "argument from morality".  Some info there dealing with evolution of morality, though in a short article one can't delve too deeply....

http://www.examiner.com/skepticism-in-washington-dc/skeptical-of-ch...

VR,

Tony
Comment by Geraldo Cienmarcos on January 29, 2011 at 3:28pm

Anybody familiar with Luc Ferry?

I found excerpts on google books of

What is the Good Life

and found it compelling reading.

 

What Is the Good Life? - Hardcover (June 15, 2005) by Luc Ferry and Lydia G. Cochrane
Ferry, Luc. What Is the Good Life?(Book review): An article from: The Review of Metaphysics - Digital - HTML (Mar. 24, 2007) by Guy Mansini
Man Made God: The Meaning of Life - Paperback (Mar. 2002) by Luc Ferry and David Pellauer

Comment by Tony Davis on January 26, 2011 at 5:16pm

Johnny P,

 

Hey!  Many thanks!  I love Price's stuff.  Very knowledgeable guy.

 

VR,

Tony

Comment by Johnny P on January 26, 2011 at 4:21pm

tony,

 

i have feverishly been listening to some of the old Bible Geek stuff to send you the link for some of Robert Price's old talks on this. http://hw.libsyn.com/p/6/4/8/6487e21bd2f88605/The_Bible_Geek_Ep5.mp...

listen from 35:20 onwards and there is some good stuff on this. if you like Price's stuff, put in 'the Bible Geek' into itunes and download the 50 free podcasts he has done. I did have some stuff on the Polytheistic ideas in the OT that I had written, but the company running our forum went under. grrr.

 

n conclusion, there was definitely polytheism in many parts of the OT. Tim Callahan's Secret Origin of the Bible is a good read too.

Comment by The Big Blue Frog on January 26, 2011 at 2:13pm

I see this as a matter of semantics. Angels are immortal. They can move freely between the spiritual and material realms. They have free will and knowledge of the nature of good and evil. They are, in essence, not any different from God. In fact, according to Genesis, the only qualities necessary to "be like" God are knowledge of good and evil and immortality. The only thing they seem to lack, according to Christian theology, is the ability to create ex nihilo, as God does.

 

They are, in almost every sense of the word, minor deities.

Comment by Tony Davis on January 26, 2011 at 1:45pm

Thanks ]3ig ]3lue Frog! 

 

Ok, first, what's with the name?  There has GOT to be a good story behind the name and the creative spelling.

 

And, this is fascinating me because I have studied and researched so intently for the past few years to work on this book I am trying so diligently to write.... and it appears I am still abysmally ignorant on a few points.  I guess we always keep learning right?  I knew, in general terms there was an argument to be made that the Jews were not always monotheistic, popular perceptions aside, just wanted to get some confirmation.  Here's my next question, and I have NO idea how a Christian would explain this one away.  I know the real answer, just haven't asked a Christian yet:  How are angels NOT minor deities?  If you look at the Greek and Roman gods (and many others) there is a Big Boss god, and then you've got all these other "gods" like Hermes, Loki, etc.  Why is it wrong to call angels "minor deities"?

 

Thanks all!

Comment by The Big Blue Frog on January 26, 2011 at 12:57pm

Tony, there are also other references. For instance, when the three men walk out of Nebuchanezzer's oven, the Bible says there was another with them who was "like a son of the gods." Many Bible translations Christify this by changing to "son of God." but the Hebrew word is "gods."

The word "Elohim" as a name for God in the OT is plural.

Comment by Tony Davis on January 26, 2011 at 7:02am
Thanks Joseph!
 

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