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Nexus Book Club

A group for those of us who like reading and books. Fiction, non-fiction, drama, poetry... everything goes.

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Feel free to discuss the books you're reading at the moment, your favorite authors or works, and so on. I'm sure everyone has a book they think others here might find interesting!

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Books of Interest to Atheists and Skeptics
Breaking The Spell by Daniel Dennett
A Devil's Chaplain, by Richard Dawkins
The End of Faith, by Sam Harris
The God Delusion, by Richard Dawkins
God is Not Great, by Christopher Hitchens
Godless, by Dan Barker
Letter to a Christian Nation, by Sam Harris
Why I am not a Christian, by Bertrand Russell

Sites for Bibliotaphs
The Internet Archive
Project Gutenburg

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Comment by Craig A. James on January 25, 2011 at 7:01pm
Tony - Actually the Jews were polytheistic until around the time of Jesus.  The book "God against the gods" by Jonathan Kirsch has an excellent history. The oldest parts of the Old Testament talk about many gods in a number of places.  The Jews believed in many gods, but promised their fidelity to Yahweh only.  In the time between around 500 B.C. and a couple centuries A.D. their polytheism died out and was replaced by true monotheism.  At the risk of sounding self serving, I devoted a whole section of my book to this topic, why paganism turned to henotheism (worshipping one god but believing in many) and finally to monotheism. There are a lot of passages in the Bible that clearly refer to many gods and I quote some of them in my book (The Religion Virus).
Comment by Tony Davis on January 25, 2011 at 6:39pm

Hey folks, help me out there.  I am actually at a loss on this one!  And sorry, the only book I am talking about is the Bible... forgive me..  LOL


I have often sort of teased my monotheistic friends with the question "When God said in Genesis 'WE created man in OUR image', who was this WE if there is only one God"?


Now, I know all the answers from a Christian perspective.  That was Jesus already there, from the beginning as the Gospel of John said and that Jesus was the word through which God spoke existence into being, etc.,...  


But what of the Jews, who don't believe in the Triune God of Christianity?  Who do the Jews thing "WE" were?  Was this the "royal WE", as it "We are not amused!" 




Comment by Kelvin Hilerio on January 23, 2011 at 6:18pm
I didn't mind the "metafictional" ending, i'm glad you read it. I agree with you that it does offer a reasonable summary of philosophical schools, i definately recommend it to those who are interested in philosophy and want to start studying it, or just anyone who is into interesting mind bending fiction.
Comment by Ian Mason on January 22, 2011 at 2:26am
Yes, I have. It's not bad. Get's a bit metaphysical/metafictional at the end but is a reasonable summary of philosophical schools and tendencies, especially for those of us who don't speak academicese.
Comment by Kelvin Hilerio on January 21, 2011 at 6:54pm
Anybody here read the philosophy/fiction book called "Sophie's World"?
Comment by Johnny P on January 19, 2011 at 10:43am
of course, in a desperate ply for publicity, Elaine, I would suggest, nay beg, that you read my book on free will, available in US and UK:
Comment by Ian Mason on January 19, 2011 at 10:07am
Welcome, Elaine. I'm a life-long addict too.
Comment by Tony Davis on January 1, 2011 at 10:21pm



You bring up some good "exceptions" to my point about no pain at all being allowed if I were the guy making the rules.  But if I was omnipotent I'd simply bestow upon you everything you've ever gotten from being bruised in football, minus the pain.  We only have to suffer to grow stronger because that's the way the world works.  If there is an omnipotent God then it would not HAVE to work that way.


But your point is well taken and I can easily accept the small bumps, bruises and sprains (I am a karate guy myself, not football and yeah, I grown much stronger from the pain in the dojo).  But, again as you've pointed out, I can't accept the baby dying from aids, etc.




Comment by Keith Brian Johnson on January 1, 2011 at 9:22pm

Ehrman's Misquoting Jesus is good, too.  I didn't know before reading it that the story of Jesus and the prostitute, in which he says "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone," is a later addition not originally in the book in which it appears.


I once wrote that if I were God's right-hand man, given the sorts of powers God is supposed to have, the first thing I'd do is to make of Earth a paradise.  The second thing I'd do is to turn to God and ask him, "Now, why didn't you do that?"


The matter of pain, suffering, and hardship, even unto the level of a hangnail, is a bit more complicated than just the prevention of all pain.  I remember when I played football, pain was part of the game.  Nothing major--just the "little hurts."  It wouldn't have been quite the same game without it.  The challenge of running a four-minute mile wouldn't be there if our bodies didn't have limited abilities.  And so on.  Moreover, there's hardly any moral praise to be garnered by refraining from shooting a gun at another person if that other person is impervious to bullets.


But I can't for the life of me see why severe, especially chronic, apparently pointless pain, having nothing to do with freely willed human actions and having nothing to do with challenging human beings to greater heights of achievement, should be viewed by the theist as somehow excusable.  The infant who dies of AIDS; the explorer who dies of malaria contracted from a mosquito bite; the victim of the 1755 Lisbon earthquake that hit churches hard--how are these in any way excusable?  The theist simply has to either ignore the events or suspend his own sense of morality, somehow giving God a pass. 

Comment by Joseph P on January 1, 2011 at 6:46pm

Omar, here's a clip off of the Atheist Experience that's a bit on the subject:


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