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"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan

"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence." -- Christopher Hitchens

What is a logical fallacy? All arguments have the same basic structure: A therefore B. They begin with one or more premises (A), which is a fact or assumption upon which the argument is based. They then apply a logical principle (therefore) to arrive at a conclusion (B). An example of a logical principle is that of equivalence. For example, if you begin with the premises that A=B and B=C, you can apply the logical principle of equivalence to conclude that A=C. A logical fallacy is a false or incorrect logical principle. An argument that is based upon a logical fallacy is therefore not valid. It is important to note that if the logic of an argument is valid then the conclusion must also be valid, which means that if the premises are all true then the conclusion must also be true. Valid logic applied to one or more false premises, however, leads to an invalid argument. Also, if an argument is not valid the conclusion may, by chance, still be true. For a more thorough discussion of logical fallacies and how to structure a logical argument, see the New England Skeptical Society's article, How To Argue.

Top 20 Logical Fallacies (in alphabetical order) taken from -

The Skeptics' Guide To The Universe

The New England Skeptical Society The Skeptics' Guide To The Universe Science-Based Medicine
The James Randi Educational Foundation
Propaganda
snopes.com
Bad Science by Ben Goldacre
Simon Singh and his fight to mend British libel laws
Professor Richard Wiseman
PZ Myers' Pharyngula
Dr. Phil Plait and Bad Astronomy
Skeptic Blog
Michael Shermer's Baloney Detection Kit
The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark by Carl Sagan
The Skeptics' Dictionary
List of cognitive biases
Don Watson - Weasel Words
QuackWatch
A List of Fallacious Arguments

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The scientific world view is full of awe and wonder. Understanding how truly awesome the universe is – in its elegant complexity, its staggering beauty, and the many intricate systems of which it is comprised – gives a profound feeling of connectedness and sparks the imagination. And it has the advantage of being real. -Steven Novella



The glory which is built upon a lie soon becomes a most unpleasant incumbrance. How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and how hard it is to undo that work again.
— Mark Twain

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Internet Sabotages Sensible Communication

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Reality TV as Analgesic Doublespeak

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Ubiquitous Disconnect from Reality

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Comment by Joseph P on March 19, 2017 at 4:35pm

... and oppose social programs that will improve the lives of the new mother and the baby that she was forced to carry to term, thus leading to a rise in pregnancy-related complications and infant mortality.

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on March 19, 2017 at 4:27pm
Comment by Idaho Spud on February 28, 2017 at 3:01pm

Beyond my comprehension how some "humans" can think it's not a bad idea to drug and rape another human being.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on February 28, 2017 at 2:11pm

What a swell bunch of guys!

Ohio Republicans Refuse To Outlaw Marital Rape


February 27, 2017 by Michael Stone 


Ohio Republicans refuse to support legislation that would make it illegal for husbands to drug and rape their wives.
In Ohio, it is currently legal for a man to drug and rape his wife. To remedy this dreadful situation, state Reps. Greta Johnson (D-Akron) and Kristin Boggs (D-Columbus) introduced legislation to eliminate spousal exemptions for sex offenses, including rape and sexual battery.
The legislation fixes a real problem in the law, and should not be controversial. However, Republicans refuse to support the legislation.

[Progressive Secular Humanist]

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 14, 2017 at 2:38pm
Librarians will do that which has to be done, open doors to books and diverse ideas! That is what educators need to do!
Comment by tom sarbeck on February 14, 2017 at 1:01pm
Three hundred thousand cheers for librarians and libtaries !!!
Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on February 14, 2017 at 12:41pm

On Feb. 17, librarians, museums and other institutions have planned a “Day of Facts” to combat misinformation in its communities. The website for the campaign reminds visitors that facts are not “an overt political stand.” [emphasis mine]

Why these librarians are protesting Trump’s executive orders

Comment by tom sarbeck on February 10, 2017 at 11:14pm
About pastors endorsing candidates, for years I've seen polls saying large majorities, 60% and more, of churchgoers oppose it. Doom is not yet ringing my doorbell.
Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on February 10, 2017 at 10:50pm

from GoComics.com - Comic Updates for 02/08/2017
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on February 9, 2017 at 6:02pm

Here it comes.

Republicans Have Filed a Bill That Would Allow Pastors to Endorse Political Candidates in Church
February 2, 2017 by Hemant Mehta

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