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"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence." -- Christopher Hitchens

What is a logical fallacy? All arguments have the same basic structure: A therefore B. They begin with one or more premises (A), which is a fact or assumption upon which the argument is based. They then apply a logical principle (therefore) to arrive at a conclusion (B). An example of a logical principle is that of equivalence. For example, if you begin with the premises that A=B and B=C, you can apply the logical principle of equivalence to conclude that A=C. A logical fallacy is a false or incorrect logical principle. An argument that is based upon a logical fallacy is therefore not valid. It is important to note that if the logic of an argument is valid then the conclusion must also be valid, which means that if the premises are all true then the conclusion must also be true. Valid logic applied to one or more false premises, however, leads to an invalid argument. Also, if an argument is not valid the conclusion may, by chance, still be true. For a more thorough discussion of logical fallacies and how to structure a logical argument, see the New England Skeptical Society's article, How To Argue.

Top 20 Logical Fallacies (in alphabetical order) taken from -

The Skeptics' Guide To The Universe

The New England Skeptical Society The Skeptics' Guide To The Universe Science-Based Medicine
The James Randi Educational Foundation
Propaganda
snopes.com
Bad Science by Ben Goldacre
Simon Singh and his fight to mend British libel laws
Professor Richard Wiseman
PZ Myers' Pharyngula
Dr. Phil Plait and Bad Astronomy
Skeptic Blog
Michael Shermer's Baloney Detection Kit
The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark by Carl Sagan
The Skeptics' Dictionary
List of cognitive biases
Don Watson - Weasel Words
QuackWatch
A List of Fallacious Arguments

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Comment by Patricia on September 22, 2017 at 7:26pm

Yes, education is another thing that must never happen! Good grief, can't have anyone knowing something other than what religion dictates!

Comment by Gary S on September 22, 2017 at 7:22pm

That makes me think of this saying from Dr. Al Bartlett:

The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function.

It seems that religion and the lack of education that it causes is one of the biggest problems.

The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function.

Comment by Patricia on September 22, 2017 at 5:10pm

Yes, it does. But birth control is a no-no, & that in a nutshell is one of the most idiotic things I've ever heard of!

I don't see any invisible being stepping up to the plate to look after the children that are supposedly loved, & we all know the places of worship need a big screen TV!

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 22, 2017 at 4:50pm

The tragedy of more babies born into already war-torn, starving, populations. The images haunt me. 

Comment by Patricia on September 22, 2017 at 4:35pm

The religious will never understand that.

The morons with their baby every year nonsense still hangs on as well.

Personally I will never understand these monstrously large families, & then begging for help to feed them.

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 22, 2017 at 4:32pm
Comment by Joan Denoo on September 22, 2017 at 4:31pm

Evidence:

1. the church continues to preach and teach “And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth … .” 

~  Genesis 1:28a, KJV)

2. the Earth is overpopulating its ability to sustain life as we know it. "Today, our global footprint is in overshoot. It would take 1.5 Earths to sustain our current population. If current trends continue, we will reach 3 Earths by the year 2050."

HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN OUR WORLD SUPPORT?

3. The church continues to preach and teach dogma from books written during the Neolithic Period, also known as the New Stone Age, that period when humans shaped stone tools, depended on domesticated plants and animals, settled into villages and told stories of their experiences of nature. Much of what we know about them comes from myths, songs, pottery, and weavings. These stories began to be written in the pre-cuneiform Sumerian writings and archaic Egyptian hieroglyphs. Earliest Sumerian writings were women counting grains, bread, beer, butter, and oil. 3,200 BCE.

4. Our present Earth can no longer afford the teachings of ancient texts; we need to take into account the depletion of soils, degradation of air and water, and overpopulation by humans. The Bible teaches genocide of people from other tribes, murder, rape, slavery, 

~ Indians, Slaves, and Mass Murder: The Hidden History, Peter Nabokov

The evidence reveals religion, as we know it, is an unethical and immoral guide for human behavior. 

 

 

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 22, 2017 at 3:29pm

Bertold, the photo with your article about the Catholic Church did not come through for me to see. I am making an assumption, but this is the photo included with the article.

Comment by tom sarbeck on September 20, 2017 at 9:50am
Thank you, Cat.
Risking overanalysis, we can learn much from an insight by Seneca:
1) Which of those things (sun, earth, moon, stars, etc) were thought supernatural by the common people, thought false by the wise, and used by the rulers?
2) Which of them are now, without evidence, believed to be natural by the common people, thought false by the wise, and used by the rulers?
Comment by Patricia on September 19, 2017 at 9:25pm

Yeah, amazing, huh?

 

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