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"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan

"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence." -- Christopher Hitchens

What is a logical fallacy? All arguments have the same basic structure: A therefore B. They begin with one or more premises (A), which is a fact or assumption upon which the argument is based. They then apply a logical principle (therefore) to arrive at a conclusion (B). An example of a logical principle is that of equivalence. For example, if you begin with the premises that A=B and B=C, you can apply the logical principle of equivalence to conclude that A=C. A logical fallacy is a false or incorrect logical principle. An argument that is based upon a logical fallacy is therefore not valid. It is important to note that if the logic of an argument is valid then the conclusion must also be valid, which means that if the premises are all true then the conclusion must also be true. Valid logic applied to one or more false premises, however, leads to an invalid argument. Also, if an argument is not valid the conclusion may, by chance, still be true. For a more thorough discussion of logical fallacies and how to structure a logical argument, see the New England Skeptical Society's article, How To Argue.

Top 20 Logical Fallacies (in alphabetical order) taken from -

The Skeptics' Guide To The Universe

The New England Skeptical Society The Skeptics' Guide To The Universe Science-Based Medicine
The James Randi Educational Foundation
Propaganda
snopes.com
Bad Science by Ben Goldacre
Simon Singh and his fight to mend British libel laws
Professor Richard Wiseman
PZ Myers' Pharyngula
Dr. Phil Plait and Bad Astronomy
Skeptic Blog
Michael Shermer's Baloney Detection Kit
The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark by Carl Sagan
The Skeptics' Dictionary
List of cognitive biases
Don Watson - Weasel Words
QuackWatch
A List of Fallacious Arguments

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Comment by sacha on June 11, 2010 at 1:31pm
Let me make it clear that felch's statement below is also my issue with the meat industry. Animals having a comfortable and pleasant life before being killed fast and without pain is something I can't argue against. Would I eat them? no. Just like I wouldn't eat the eggs from the happy chickens at Daniel's (who is also a vegetarian). If everyone decided that the pain and misery that the majority of animals endure to put meat on your plates and give you fashionable shoes, was not something you were willing to endorse any longer, and only purchased animal products from places you knew for sure were being treated well (not just a misleading label on the meat or eggs). The world would be a much better place.
Comment by sacha on June 11, 2010 at 1:22pm
quote of the day:

"I have always consistently stressed that humane farming and slaughter should be the number one issue for any carnivore. I know precisely how my meat is farmed and killed. I urge every carnivore to do the same."

-UD felch grogan
Comment by sacha on June 10, 2010 at 10:50am
quote of the day:

"Typed laughter just can't express the profundity of my diaphragmatic spasms."

-Howard S. Dunn
Comment by Susan Stanko on June 10, 2010 at 7:51am
Ah, gotcha.
Comment by sacha on June 10, 2010 at 12:51am
Susan,

When I said "this "super" skinny thing, I was referring to what is the norm for models from about when Twiggy appeared until now. Before that it was not at all unusual for a model to be a size 14. Marilyn Monroe was a 14/16.

Don't fret, less than 1% of young women who are super skinny and also tall (5' 11 - 6'2) even have what the agents would even give a first glance to.
Comment by Susan Stanko on June 9, 2010 at 11:11pm
Super skinny? Sacha are your eyes okay? If a size 14 is "super skinny" then I should have been a model.
Comment by sacha on June 9, 2010 at 3:35pm
She's far from the world's first, this super-skinny thing came along in the 60's with Twiggy.

They did not call them "super" models until much much later, so perhaps they are referring to her title.

She looks like Catherine Zeta Jones
Comment by sacha on June 9, 2010 at 10:58am
quote of the day:

"should farm free range vegans"

-UD felch grogan
Comment by Jaume on June 8, 2010 at 1:39pm
OK --

Adjective (comparative: OKer or OoK, superlative: OKest or OoooooooK)

Definition

1. extremely elastic

Example

- Does Vice-President Cheney have any sense of honor?
- I think he's OK on that.
Comment by sacha on June 8, 2010 at 12:20pm
quote of the day:

"I, for instance, believe that things will work out OK. Makes no sense at all, given the track record. My rationalization is that the definition of "OK" is extremely elastic."

-Jason Spicer
 

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