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"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence." -- Christopher Hitchens

What is a logical fallacy? All arguments have the same basic structure: A therefore B. They begin with one or more premises (A), which is a fact or assumption upon which the argument is based. They then apply a logical principle (therefore) to arrive at a conclusion (B). An example of a logical principle is that of equivalence. For example, if you begin with the premises that A=B and B=C, you can apply the logical principle of equivalence to conclude that A=C. A logical fallacy is a false or incorrect logical principle. An argument that is based upon a logical fallacy is therefore not valid. It is important to note that if the logic of an argument is valid then the conclusion must also be valid, which means that if the premises are all true then the conclusion must also be true. Valid logic applied to one or more false premises, however, leads to an invalid argument. Also, if an argument is not valid the conclusion may, by chance, still be true. For a more thorough discussion of logical fallacies and how to structure a logical argument, see the New England Skeptical Society's article, How To Argue.

Top 20 Logical Fallacies (in alphabetical order) taken from -

The Skeptics' Guide To The Universe

The New England Skeptical Society The Skeptics' Guide To The Universe Science-Based Medicine
The James Randi Educational Foundation
Propaganda
snopes.com
Bad Science by Ben Goldacre
Simon Singh and his fight to mend British libel laws
Professor Richard Wiseman
PZ Myers' Pharyngula
Dr. Phil Plait and Bad Astronomy
Skeptic Blog
Michael Shermer's Baloney Detection Kit
The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark by Carl Sagan
The Skeptics' Dictionary
List of cognitive biases
Don Watson - Weasel Words
QuackWatch
A List of Fallacious Arguments

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Comment by sk8eycat on June 24, 2015 at 11:04pm

Moses (and his brother Aaron) WERE silly....doing sleight-of-hand tricks to try to impress the Pharaoh....

The whole Exodus story is silly fiction...none of it ever happened.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 24, 2015 at 10:30pm

Hossein looks so self-confident, kind of like a modern Moses making his declarations about laws and whatever. Suddenly, Moses becomes as silly sounding as the Hossein guy. 

Comment by Loren Miller on June 24, 2015 at 9:16pm

Hossein is right about homosexuals the same way the bible is right about cows giving birth to striped calves if they're confronted with striped fences ... or however that goes!  Crap like that is so laughable that it's a wonder the bible has any kind of credibility left!

Comment by sk8eycat on June 24, 2015 at 9:01pm

Could be.  Could be.

I WOULD like to meet a centaur, though....even though the ones in the Harry Potter series were  rather boring, and believed in astrology.

IMO anyone who is serious about astrology, and several of my long-time friends are, can be horribly boring....I walked out of my first and only MENSA recruiting get-together when some guy tried the "What's your sign?" line on me.  I was so outraged that I couldn't even think of anything clever to say to the dweeb.

Comment by Pat on June 24, 2015 at 7:17pm

I stand corrected Felaine. Although, I'm not so sure it's a man, as more likely a little boy.

Comment by sk8eycat on June 24, 2015 at 7:15pm

I wonder what Hossein Whatever would say about fantasizing about a man while impregnating one of his wives......  Actually that is more likely....

Comment by Gerald Payne on June 24, 2015 at 7:10pm

Maybe we'll have to invent some new form of communication to describe religious delusion. Words seem to be too conventional.

Comment by Pat on June 24, 2015 at 7:06pm

OK, I have a question for Hossein Dehnavi. When impregnating your wife, and you fantasize about a goat (you know you do, bubba), is your child born a centaur?

Comment by Gerald Payne on June 24, 2015 at 6:55pm

If reads more like satire than a serious statement. The buffoonery of the man is hard to put into words.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 24, 2015 at 5:19pm

Dear Iranian, Islamic, cleric Hossein Dehnavi, will you please give us your citation for this tidbit of information?

 

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