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"Keep an open mind – but not so open that your brain falls out" -unknown

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan

"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence." -- Christopher Hitchens

What is a logical fallacy? All arguments have the same basic structure: A therefore B. They begin with one or more premises (A), which is a fact or assumption upon which the argument is based. They then apply a logical principle (therefore) to arrive at a conclusion (B). An example of a logical principle is that of equivalence. For example, if you begin with the premises that A=B and B=C, you can apply the logical principle of equivalence to conclude that A=C. A logical fallacy is a false or incorrect logical principle. An argument that is based upon a logical fallacy is therefore not valid. It is important to note that if the logic of an argument is valid then the conclusion must also be valid, which means that if the premises are all true then the conclusion must also be true. Valid logic applied to one or more false premises, however, leads to an invalid argument. Also, if an argument is not valid the conclusion may, by chance, still be true. For a more thorough discussion of logical fallacies and how to structure a logical argument, see the New England Skeptical Society's article, How To Argue.

Top 20 Logical Fallacies (in alphabetical order) taken from -

The Skeptics' Guide To The Universe

The New England Skeptical Society The Skeptics' Guide To The Universe Science-Based Medicine
The James Randi Educational Foundation
Propaganda
snopes.com
Bad Science by Ben Goldacre
Simon Singh and his fight to mend British libel laws
Professor Richard Wiseman
PZ Myers' Pharyngula
Dr. Phil Plait and Bad Astronomy
Skeptic Blog
Michael Shermer's Baloney Detection Kit
The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark by Carl Sagan
The Skeptics' Dictionary
List of cognitive biases
Don Watson - Weasel Words
QuackWatch
A List of Fallacious Arguments

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"No skeptic, to my knowledge, ever made a major scientific discovery or advanced the welfare of others."

-- Deepak Chopra (yes, he actually said that)

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds the most discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!) but That's funny..." -Isaac Asimov



The scientific world view is full of awe and wonder. Understanding how truly awesome the universe is – in its elegant complexity, its staggering beauty, and the many intricate systems of which it is comprised – gives a profound feeling of connectedness and sparks the imagination. And it has the advantage of being real. -Steven Novella



The glory which is built upon a lie soon becomes a most unpleasant incumbrance. How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and how hard it is to undo that work again.
— Mark Twain

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Anger-Incitement Playbook

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Visceral Vernacular is Great Oration

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Hyperbolic Discounting

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How to Mind-Capture a Nation

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Post-Truth "Reality" Tactics

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Snag-Attention Government

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The Blowfish Fallacy

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Snake Oil of Doom

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Media Bubbles - Truth versus Security

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Misleading with truth is Paltering

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On images and moral vacuums

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Blame as a Fallacy

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Repeated lies seem true

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Identity-Protective Cognition and Fundamentalism

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Truthiness Trumpiness

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Internet Sabotages Sensible Communication

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Reality TV as Analgesic Doublespeak

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Ubiquitous Disconnect from Reality

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Search Engine Manipulation Effect

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Comment by Loren Miller on February 9, 2017 at 2:52pm

Between "alternative facts" and the "Bowling Green massacre," I have to wonder if KellyAnne Conway has any interest in a relationship with reality at all, or whether she's just BSing her ass off to suit her boss.

Either way, it's disturbing as hell.

Comment by Michael Penn on February 9, 2017 at 2:51pm

Everybody is looney tunes. I'm still trying to get over the Bowling Green Massacre. That was a bad one.

Comment by Loren Miller on February 9, 2017 at 11:07am

Swell, Ruth ... and the next thing those voices are likely to say is that he's the best dictator our planet ever knew...

[Damnit, where's the fucking Pepto???]

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on February 9, 2017 at 10:48am
Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on January 25, 2017 at 3:57pm
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on January 16, 2017 at 12:31pm

He is invincible!

Goofy Christians Create ‘POTUS Shield’ Around Trump For Inauguration

  • Concerned citizens ask: Will the POTUS Shield offer protection from “Golden Showers”?

[Progressive Secular Humanist]

Comment by Grinning Cat on January 9, 2017 at 5:15am

No internet discussion is complete without cute kitties!

Creationist Kitteh iz engaged in deep scientific research [black cat with green eyes and white muzzle and paws, reading a Bible. Credit: icanhascheezburger.com]

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on January 1, 2017 at 1:39pm

I agree, Tom. People should stick to more credible sources (like David Barton.)

Comment by tom sarbeck on December 31, 2016 at 10:32pm
Bert, in my not very humble opinion, people who read Taunton's stuff have too much free time.
But it's their free time.
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on December 31, 2016 at 2:00pm

Nick Cohen neatly drives a stake through the heart of bullshit artist Larry Alex Taunton's claim that Christopher Hitchens was teetering on the edge of faith on his deathbed.

Christopher Hitchens was defiant to the last
DECEMBER 28, 2016 ~ NICK COHEN

 

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