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YMCA - what can you tell me about it

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Atheist Dating in the bible belt

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Comment by J S on August 25, 2013 at 10:43am

being from Elizabeth City originally - I find it humorous how much its been in the news lately... Edward Snowden - the NSA leaker is originally from E.C.... I live on the OBX, any OBX subchapter of the EC group? I'm surrounded by theists... help

Comment by Joseph P on August 24, 2013 at 3:39pm

And they're really freaking needed, right now.  How does it feel to have your little town as the center of national attention?  Our state is royally fucking up, lately.

Comment by Greta K. on August 24, 2013 at 3:35pm

There is a group in Elizabeth City. It's called Elizabeth City Freethinkers. We're on meetup.com. We're up to 69 members in this little bible belt enclave. :)

Comment by J S on July 30, 2013 at 9:29am

Thanks Loren. Yes it is a public school. My daughter hasn't even uttered the word God yet - so I don't know if it'll come into play for a few more years. However, I will sit down with the teacher and administrators if my child is chastised for using the word God. Freedom of speech is important, and religion/God doesn't get a pass, just because somebody might get offended.

I'm very familiar with the ffrf - I actually made a complaint that they've already written the state of NC about. The License Plate Agency, here in NC is a private franchise in each county; i.e. its run by independent contractors on behalf of the NCDMV. In the two counties nearest to where I live - they sell vanity plates for your front bumper (NC is one of those states where you only have a license plate on the rear bumper) - NC State, UNC, Retired, Marine Corps, etc... plenty to choose from, but among those to choose from, are prominently displayed numerous, "Jesus Saves", "God is my Co-Pilot", etc. 

Since I have no other option of renewing my plate, but to stand in line and receive a religious message, I snapped a photo and sent it to the FFRF. They promptly sent a letter to the NCDMV requesting that their contractors be instructed to remove such license plates, as they were a de facto, state agency.

I also volunteered to be their plaintiff when the NC General Assembly passes the bill making Christianity the 'official' religion of NC...

Its funny, my daughter currently goes to a private montessori school run by a bunch of unitarians. Her teacher is a devout Methodist (I know by reading her facebook posts). I have no problem with her teaching my child - even knowing that she might attempt to evangelize. The montessori method is all about equipping the children with the skills of critical thought.

Thanks for you input! I'll post again if I discover any more covert indoctrination in the school system.

Comment by Loren Miller on July 29, 2013 at 8:44am

Well, I'm an atheist and a parent, just not living in North Carolina.  That being the case, I would do a couple things:

  • Focus on the "forbidden" aspect, and inquire directly as to WHY it's forbidden, freedom of speech being the law of the land and all that
  • If they want to fall back on religious explanations, then it's time to get a hold of the Legal Department of the Freedom From Religion Foundation and bring them in, or at least indicate to the school's administration that such is an option and do they really want to face that down?

Of course, I'm assuming here that we're dealing with a public school.  Private schools will run themselves as they please - more's the pity.

Comment by J S on July 29, 2013 at 8:33am

Wanting feedback from fellow NC atheist parents:

My daughter starts kindergarten in the fall. I found out from a 'soft' atheist neighbor that her children (1st and 2nd grade) routinely get chastised at school for using the term "oh my God". Apparently that expression is on the forbidden list. She's ambivalent about it, but being an antitheist, I'm not going to have my daughter chastised in a public school for referring to a fictitious diety.... anybody else come across this stealth form of religion in NC public schools?

My neighbor made it very clear that it wasn't a matter of "no use of the word God is allowed in school" - it was definitely a matter of taking the lord's name in vain, is not allowed.

any thoughts?

/Jeremy

Comment by J S on March 14, 2013 at 8:19pm

I agree... in a perfect world I'd be out, ranting and raving about their crazy ass god.... but I don't wish to out myself, though I'm sure it will eventually happen. Trust me, I donate a helluva lot more to secular charities.  The real 'outing' episode is probably under a year away. My 5 yr old daughter's friend is from an evangelical baptist family... fire and brimstone, rapture types.... Civility will cease when my daughter comes home from the playground crying about going to hell.... I'll show her parents what hell on earth is like for making my little girl cry over a mind forged torture chamber

Comment by Joseph P on March 14, 2013 at 3:44pm

That's one of the reasons to be out of the closet, yeah.  Same thing when I see a group like the Salvation Army out fundraising (not that they're that aggressive, except for the stupid bells).  If I get someone more actively seeking money for something that sounds religious, I'll tell them flat-out that I don't support religious charities.

And Christ, no way in hell I would give someone money so they can go proselytize at people.  If their kid was fundraising for something school-related, then sure.

Comment by J S on March 14, 2013 at 3:36pm

I really don't care if my neighbors are theists, deists, christians, etc... I don't need to engage with them in that type of conversation. The one religious family are methodists, so they are pretty tame... However, it irks me that as an anti-theist I donate to their son's youth group's fundraising for their missionary trip to south america every year. I figure when my kids are older, they'll be making the rounds of fundraising, so its the neighborly thing to do. (Yes an anti-theist paying to help their church convert catholics to christians). Fast forward to a couple months ago, my 5 year old daughter's school is having a pancake dinner to raise money to send their teachers to a conference... Suddenly the christians are on a diet... all of my other neighbors declined to buy the tickets, but instead just gave a donation.... hypocrites or Atkins diet, don't know which is the truth. Maybe I have to out myself, next time their son comes to the door asking for his 20 bucks.... I'm sorry son, I'm an atheist

Comment by Joseph P on March 14, 2013 at 2:18pm

You might be surprised.  Almost my entire department of 12 at my last job was at least passively non-theistic.  I think we had two Christians.  Of course, that's in an I.T. department, in the Triangle.

You have to be subtle about it, though, in your situation.  I could probably worm it out of them without revealing my own anti-theistic stance ... not that I would be subtle about it, myself.  Outside of a work environment, I'm out and vocal about it to anyone who expresses even a slight interest in a discussion about religion.

 

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