Brian Cox What went wrong at the Large Hadron Collider

What is the use of all these expensive experiments? 

“Nothing is so dangerous to the progress of the human mind than to assume that our views of science are ultimate, that there are no mysteries in nature, that our triumphs are complete and that there are no new worlds to conquer.”

~Humphry Davy

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I'm no scientologist, but as far as I can tell, nothing went wrong at the Large Hadron Collider.  Things just went horribly right.  We discovered the Higgs Boson and that was a big advance for particle physics. 

Are you saying that knowledge must have a practical application to be worth pursuing?

For some reason, my response does not appear. So, I'll try again. 

I am not saying that "knowledge must have a practical application to be worth pursuing"! 

Again, I share a quote: 

"The most important of my discoveries have been suggested to me by my failures."
~ Humphry Davy


It is the nature of human beings to doubt, question, explore, experiment, take risks, accept being wrong, learn from mistakes and continue the quest for knowledge. 

What went wrong?  A mechanical - electrical flaw, causing a temporary setback.  That's it.  Considering the enormous size of the LHC, something like that occurring after the initial turn-on event was all but inevitable.  Yeah, it happened and yeah, it got fixed, and not long afterward, the Large Hadron Collider effectively verified the existence of the Higgs Boson.

The benefit?  We learn how the universe WORKS, we see it in the amazing and varied collisions between hydrogen nuclei racing about that 27-km ring at a bare fraction under the speed of light.  Someday, the LHC may even create gravitons, possibly give us that last link in the chain of the Unified Field Theory.

The LHC is a tool which allows us to learn ... and it beats the snot out of a 2000-year-old "holy" book.

Rose, I agree with you totally. That is why one needs to be discerning, not to prejudge, but to pay attention to what happens as a consequence of our decisions. If a nation builds an atomic bomb, it is not to generate electricity, but to destroy a nation, for good or ill. Our military equipped with the finest up-to-date technology that tries to dominate other nations quickly turns into imperialism. 

Our nation has lost some important values because power quickly turns to absolute power. I fear a despot will emerge out of this current mess. 

Hi Joan. Out of curiosity who do you think would be happy if we hadn't won World War II? Although people should not relish in it policemen must have guns or criminals will run our lives.

John, who appoints and controls the policemen? Although many times I agree with American actions, I feel that uncontrolled power can certainly harmful some day.

What is uncontrolled about policemen in the USA? Disarming policemen here will only invite criminals here to do any ruthless thing they please. Do you really think otherwise? Are you saying that criminals here will disarm themselves if policemen here do it first?

Who controls the policemen? Think about it, who, out there in the jungle we call civilization is there to control the cops? Pretty much no one. For the most part, American cops are god complexes with badges. Obviously a few are not but the vast VAST majority have let the power go to their heads and a great many of them are at times, out of control. They're textbook examples of how human beings are not fundamentally wired to be overtly rich or have a great deal of power (or especially both) and then there's the thing about them being armed... I really wish an in-depth study could be done to determine how many times a cop over reacts to situations and abuse their authority in general. 

I am sure if such a study was conducted you find that the majority DO NOT abuse their power.  It just seems like it because that is what we hear about.

I agree with Susan. Freedom of the press, criminal and civil laws control them not to mention politicians who don't want to get voted out of office. The chain of command is also pressured to control them because the higher ups don't want to lose their appointments.

Science provides us with knowledge, Rose.  Technology and engineering harness it and give us tools.  How we actually USE those tools is up to us.

The buck stops with each and every one of us.

We're curious SOBs, Rose.  As an engineer, I can speak directly to that fact.  We want to know how things work and why things are.  We investigate, study and analyze to find those things out, and as we do so, we frequently find things which we weren't looking for, whether for good or ill.

To suggest that we tailor our research and discovery efforts solely to those areas which might simply bring us happiness is to misunderstand both human nature and the process of discovery.  The blinders you suggest would be frustrated before you could even get them on.

I maintain that it is human discipline and our self-constructed morality which will either preserve us or destroy us.  That buck I mentioned before hasn't moved ... and I'm not certain it CAN be moved.




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