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Oh cool!  I will have to get me some of these t-shirts.  Does it scare any of the religious folk?  Get any really bad reactions?
I get all good reactions from younger people, and the occasional dirty look from the older crowd. (Being 53 years old, i refer to those older than me.) :)

Christianity and Islam grow, in part, due to evangelical activity by their adherents. They prey on folks that are 'lost'. They provide a shelter from the storm. They let it be known that the shelter was provided by their god, which leads to conversion.

Until we provide a shelter from the storm, we will never compete with them.

It doesn't matter what we call ourselves but it has to be something and it has to make clear (softly) that imaginary gods are not involved.


I see a 'ChipIn' adv on the side of the page for Nexus 3.0 (Stage2).  I read the details.  I support the goals and hope that the amount needed will be raised soon.  I believe non profit status is essential as is providing local community support - just as the 'religious' groups do.  We are not what we name ourselves. We are what we do and what we are perceived as doing.  I think using the term 'atheist' is just fine.  It doesn't leave room for doubt but I would be 'diplomatic' in using it.

I think our best tool for that is the media.  I don't mean the media in the traditional usage of the word, like the News, although that's a part of it, too.

We've got tv shows now portraying atheists in a positive light.  And it's not just lovable assholes, like House ... although he's probably one of the most well known.  I heard someone mention the character, Jane, from The Mentalist, in some other thread on this site.  He's an even better example, if not as well known.


Once atheists get written into shows and movies regularly, as positive, intellectual, skeptical characters, which the next generation will want to emulate, we'll have won.

Hell, we've already won.  We just need the time for the current crop of teenagers to grow up into 30-somethings, with the occasional nudge from the more serious (nonfictional) atheists.  Once atheism gains an even footing with religion, in terms of media coverage, we can't help but get to over 50% of the population within a generation or two.

Why would anybody with half a brain agree with anything SamIaminHarris mistakkenly udders.  Or the obscene projectile that claims Hitchens brainolollia.  m

People with half a brain probably wouldn't agree with Sam Harris. Those of us with both halves functioning properly enjoy watching him as he destroys the creationists in debates. Same with Hitchins, especially on YouTube Hitchslap videos. Bam!

Another hilarious SH quote, referenced by Bill Maher when George W. Bush was president:

"The president of the United States has claimed, on more than one occasion, to be in dialogue with God. If he said that he was talking to God through his hairdryer, this would precipitate a national emergency. I fail to see how the addition of a hairdryer makes the claim more ridiculous or offensive."
So if I disagree with Sam Harris, it's because I'm stupid?  Well, I've had MRIs of my brain done, and I can assure you that I have more than half a brain;  I can only assume you meant it metaphorically.  Why don't you explain literally what you mean, as I'd like to know the specific way in which I am defective so I can ask my doctor if there is any treatment for this malady.


I agree that coming out of the closet is hard and alienating.  But for those who have a hard time smoothly blending in and coexisting with those who preach/live nonsense, life within this society is alienating - period [another reason this place is great].  I really like the cartoon included by Dr. Terence Meaden - it is a very simple yet accurate representation of my process of "coming out" not just in general, but within myself as well ...

For younger people who are thinking of "coming out" as atheists, a short video:

I think they need all the encouragement they can get.

...and a Youtube video of a young man who has come out in a very calm and matter-of-fact way.

Thank you.  I am, too.  I went through the same thing 30+ years ago, and without social networking sites like this site, YouTube, Facebook, etc., it was rough.  What I'm doing now is a kind of therapy for me.  At 53 years old, I'm one of the walking wounded.



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