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Comment by Marc Draco on January 1, 2011 at 6:41pm

That's right, he's been force feeding himself for weeks!


"Great days, yeah! The Bistro Illegal; The Evildrome Boozerama; Slim's Throat Emporium! Great days, yeah!"


We'll have to get a room at this rate, Tony! Curiously, a reference to Hotblack Desiato appears in "Mass Effect 2" (XBox, PC and PS3) where one of the characters comments that a lot of people are spending a year dead for tax reasons these days.


Ah Doug, we miss you so.

Comment by Tony Davis on December 31, 2010 at 11:55pm

I am with you Marc.  HUGE Douglas Adams fan here!  He was taken from us far too soon! 

I love eating steak but I can never eat one now without hearing Douglas Adam's voice in my head (as the cow speaking to Zaphod Beeblebrox) "Good evening.  I will be the main course.  May I interest you in parts of my body?"  LOL  Or at least something like that.  Too funny.

Comment by Marc Draco on December 31, 2010 at 8:31pm

Very good, Tony;


"It was right, it would work and no one would have to get nailed to anything."


I'm such a Douglas Adams fanboi - I even do most of my thinking in the bath.



Comment by Tony Davis on December 31, 2010 at 7:08pm

Marc - Yeah, I know.  I am such an damn hopeless optimist that I am always surprised when people like this guy falls for the bullshit.


By the way, the reference to the girl in the cafe.... Douglas Adams???

Comment by Marc Draco on December 31, 2010 at 5:12pm

Seriously Tony? Why so amazed.


Most people are ignorant of the facts (and that statement could be used by Stein too, which is ironic).


I think we're losing though under the weight of all this bullshit; the world will probably be demolished the instant that a girl sitting on her own in a cafe in Rickmansworth finally figures out how to convince creationists that they've been wrong all this time.


And with that, I'll bid you all a fond farewell until next year - which is about 45 minutes away for me...

Comment by Tony Davis on December 31, 2010 at 4:54pm



I concur.  I am just amazed at how much stock people put into what Stein said in the movie!

Comment by Bryon on December 31, 2010 at 2:40pm
I watched the Ben Stein film and was not impressed. It is all the same old BS and not even presented well. Very pathetic.
Comment by Tony Davis on December 31, 2010 at 12:06pm

Hey folks, appreciate all the help on the "research into the origins of life" question.  I think I have pretty much inundated him now.


I don't know how clear I was last night but apparently this guy (again, an otherwise rational person who I've known for over 20 years) watched Ben Stein's "Expelled" and really bought into the things Stein was saying about how "Evolution doesn't explain how life got started (or the origin of the universe, or gravity, etc.)"  Well, of course, it is not supposed to explain those things!  LOL


Thanks again folks!

Oh, and as they say in Korea (since it is already 2011 there) 새해복많이받으세요 (seh hey bok manhi baduh seh yo), or HAPPY NEW YEAR!  :-)

Comment by CDB on December 31, 2010 at 6:56am

The wikipedia has pretty good synopsis also on miller/urey...... and subsequent work on AA

Comment by Terrence Lee Reed on December 31, 2010 at 6:16am
Here is a short video that gives a quick summary of abiogenesis:
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