ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.

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The portrait is Charles Darwin, age 31, in 1840

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On the scientific miracles of Qur'an

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Modern Humans Interbred with Neanderthals in Europe

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DNA Links Kennewick Man to Native Americans

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Evolution is a FACT, not a theory.

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The new website called 'Grand Ideas'.

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On Abolishing Religion

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Genetically Engineered Fungi are Part Human and Part Yeast

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Comment by Chuck VonDerAhe on June 29, 2011 at 11:40am
The way I express it is, "I accept the fact of the evolutionary theory".
Comment by Marc Draco on June 29, 2011 at 11:19am

No Mike, we don't... we can separate "belief" in the demonstrable (2+2=4) from belief in the supernatural; theists, on the other hand, cannot!

 

Hence my use of quotes around "believe".

 

English is a very powerful way to express yourself - it has the 2nd highest redundancy of all popular languages - but when a word like belief is hijacked in two different meanings, then one side has to stop using it to avoid confusion.

Comment by Marc Draco on June 29, 2011 at 10:58am
Something else to be mindful of here too. We don't "believe" in evolution. We understand it, follow it... etc. but NEVER believe in it. Belief is a word that should be reserved for the intangible - and in science that is limited to very few theoretical objects at the extremes of physics.
Comment by Jennifer R on June 29, 2011 at 10:34am
Watching that video a couple weeks ago made me embarrassed for our country. The fact that only two believed in evolution is disheartening. But then, i have to remember the background of the kind of people who participate in beauty pageants and tell myself that these 50 women are by no means a representative pool of the people in our country. At least that's what is keeping me from slitting my wrists.
Comment by Marc Draco on June 29, 2011 at 10:28am
Either way, I'll reserve judgement. This kind of optimism can turn into a train wreck just as quickly.
Comment by Alvaro Ramos on June 29, 2011 at 8:28am

Poor girls, they are taught to be only pretty and dumb.

The worst thing is their parents, their schools directors, their representatives and even some of their Presidents think it is cute and healthy.

Comment by Joseph P on June 29, 2011 at 7:10am
Exactly, and she's a poor representative for visiting, foreign dignitaries.  As our chief diplomat, we need better.
Comment by Alice on June 29, 2011 at 12:11am
You're talking about Miss USA here!
Comment by Raul Alva on June 28, 2011 at 7:25pm
Just watching http://youtu.be/UkBmhM0R2A0 on Miss USA contestants about evolution. What an amount of science illiteracy is shown on it.
Comment by Lydia Allen on June 28, 2011 at 6:58pm
Thanks for the invite!
 

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