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Comment by Dr. Terence Meaden on December 22, 2009 at 7:58am
Thank you Matthew for posting these video films.
To make them more prominent and easier for others to find, you may put them into a "discussion slot" ----
above, where it says +Start Discussion.
Comment by John Donaldson on December 21, 2009 at 2:12pm
For anyone interested, the full transcript of the trial is to be found at:, and there is a book, written by a local reporter "The Devil in Dover:an Insider's Story of Dogma V. Darwin in Small Town America" by Lauri Lebo
Comment by John Secular Smith on December 2, 2009 at 10:51am
Larry doesn't do civility Sara, let it go.
Comment by Ogden Lafaye on December 2, 2009 at 8:29am
And then, maybe not.
Comment by Rudy V Kiist on December 2, 2009 at 7:58am
Enough of the name calling...
Comment by Marc Draco on December 2, 2009 at 5:00am
Larry isn't a troll, he just has a different opinion.
Comment by David Miller on December 1, 2009 at 9:29pm
Comment by Rudy V Kiist on December 1, 2009 at 9:06pm
I posted it on the other site, Adrian. And for the record I don't actually disagree with either of you (Ogden and Adrian) or Larry. Read what I got there.
Comment by Ogden Lafaye on December 1, 2009 at 7:50pm
Atheist Nexus does not allow religionists to post here. For the same reasons, climate/environment boards should not allow Larry Lawson types to post.

Horses to water and pearls before swine and all that.

Larry innate sense that we are all wrong from what he has experienced and learned over the years...and even though he has no related education whatsoever and seems to demonstrate a position akin to a flat-earther, Jesus worshipper etc., I really believe he has simply taken a position long ago, against authority...any authority and revels in questioning the authority of the people here. This questioning is not to learn anything but rather to disturb and distress while running out theories and slants he has developed over the years.

I am afraid Larry is a troll.
Comment by Rudy V Kiist on December 1, 2009 at 3:59pm
Holy crap you guys have been busy (^_^)...I take it John and Larry didn't watch much news this weekend? I say this because a leaked report on climate change has stated that reports were exaggerated on time lines and severity of GW. Albeit, this does not conflict with the data per say, but I find it interesting. Of course, this brings up my point. I don't argue it's not happening, I also strongly believe we need to something about pollution, emissions, etc. for many reasons besides GW. Mine's more of a fascination with the human mind and thinking. Especially the 3 hardest words for someone to say (especially a scientist) "I don't know". It could be as bad as Adrian says or it could be worse. We could end up with newly needed farmland in northern Canada, Russia, and Europe in 50-100 years....We don't know. In the meantime, let's clean up the environment.

And I want to make one more point on "realism". Adrian, I assume you make a decent living and are not suffering from hunger or disease? Well why don't you go tell the people of third world nations from your cozy home, that GW will make the death they're experiencing worse...good luck on that.

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