ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.

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The portrait is Charles Darwin, age 31, in 1840

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Comment by Joseph P on January 28, 2015 at 11:32am

Or come up with something to say that is worth listening to.  I just took a glance at your latest blog post, and it's borderline incoherent.  I can't even figure out what you're getting at with your mountain metaphor, and I'd love to know why you have a bug up your ass about eugenics.

Comment by Shaun Johnston on January 28, 2015 at 11:27am

OK, I get it, piss off. OK.

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 28, 2015 at 11:17am

I'm not wasting my time reading anything you have written until you get Dawkins, and/or other respected evolutionary scientists to agree with you.

Comment by Joseph P on January 28, 2015 at 11:09am

I'm waiting for someone with an actual lab, running actual experiments, to turn up something, rather than you making absurd claims.  When you keep coming at us with deliberately provocative claims about natural selection being supernatural, we're just going to think you're an asshole.

This is science, not theology.  Where's your data?  Where are the peer-reviewed studies that support your wild assertions?  After your last ridiculous post, I can't even be bothered to check the latest stuff you've written, unless you're pointing us to something written by someone more credible than you.

The model of natural selection is criticized and modified all the time, when real scientists discover some detail turned up in their experiments.  When you have something similar to contribute, rather than wild speculation, I might care about what you have to say.

Comment by Shaun Johnston on January 28, 2015 at 10:48am

No, about natural selection not having the physical properties it would need to work, and the primary support for it being flawed. Do you agree that is possible, or is natural selection beyond criticism?

Comment by Joseph P on January 27, 2015 at 5:36pm

More stuff about Natural Selection being a supernatural proposal?

Comment by Shaun Johnston on January 27, 2015 at 5:28pm

I've just posted another non-creationist attack on the foundations of modern evolutionary theory, "Why natural selection doesn't work," on my blog. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 10, 2014 at 11:08am

The history of our world in 18 minutes

This incredible video should set religionists back on their heels and rethink their mythology. It contains a description of our world and the universe in which it resides. Beautifully told, impressively illustrated, concepts are so easy to understand that even hard-core "young Earth" creationists should stop and think. 

I love his story; even more I love his focus on his grandchild and the reason for paying attention to what this video conveys. 

Comment by Lemual Poot on December 10, 2014 at 10:43am

I just read my posted comment. Oops!  I didn't mean to say you should open the book and read it.  I meant, on the first page, before the characters are introduced, the set description; it's fascinating!  

Comment by Lemual Poot on December 10, 2014 at 10:07am

In the many discussions I've had about evolution, I've found one common thread of misunderstanding.  Apparently, from the pulpit, their religious leaders cite Darwin's original "Theory of Evolution," rather that the accepted fact of, or principal of evolution.  They're usually hung up on the whole, "came from monkeys" paradigm.  I've actually made some headway by first admitting that Darwin might have guessed wrong, or rather used the wrong example.  Admittedly, I haven't read the entire text of "Origin of The Species," in a very long time but I believe he wasn't all that clear about humans and their relationship with that particular species.  For illustration sake, I use their bible as reference.  It's really difficult for them to discount my words when I'm quoting Genesis.  If any of you happen to have a copy of "The Book" turn it to the very first page and read.  It's a near-perfect description of the evolutionary creation of our planet.  You have to read around the fairy tale references that were written for the intellect of the readers of that time but within it, is enough weaponry for a logical debate in the name of evolution.  I know, it's a poor choice of reference but it's the only way I've ever gotten them to even listen to me.  My question is, "How the hell did Moses (or whoever) know that stuff?"    

 

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