ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.

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Comment by Marc Draco on December 15, 2010 at 2:37pm

Or you can download all six versions for free from the various Internet sites that host them. It's out of copyright and quite easily obtained.

 

The Ray Comfort edition that Joseph alludes to is the completely debased version with the introduction defiling all of Darwin's ideas. [shudders]

Comment by Joseph P on December 15, 2010 at 5:40am

They should both have similar texts.  Darwin made a few clarification corrections in later editions, but they were relatively minor.  I would imagine that most modern printings use his latest version.  Since it's been public domain for well over a century, plenty of people have put out their own editions, mostly just with different introductions and such.  Personally, I love my Ray Comfort edition.  Ray Comfort is such an asshat.

 

As for the difference in titles, the original was actually even longer: 'On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection or the Preservation of favored Races in the Struggle for Life.' The longer one is closer to the original, but that doesn't really mean anything.  Some people have shortened the title, since the newer convention of short, catchy titles  has supplanted the old convention of explaining what the hell the book is actually about, with the title.  Apparently most modern readers' ADD kicks in after 3 or 4 words of title.

 

Basically, you'll have to just read the Amazon description of the books about the various introductions and such.  That sort of thing should be the only difference.

Comment by M.S.D. on December 8, 2010 at 9:14pm
Comment by Joseph P on December 4, 2010 at 11:49pm
Yeah, Tony, if you get someone who just flat out doesn't like it and has nothing constructive to add, you can probably disregard that opinion, if you're sure other people genuinely liked it. Some people have no concept of humor. That one of the few comments was about 'appropriateness' ... yeah, that's one humorless prig.

Place the highest value in the negative comments you get, but only those which include some useful suggestion or at least a specific negative detail. A blanket "I didn't like it," is pretty worthless.
Comment by Tony Davis on December 4, 2010 at 11:48pm
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Comment by Tony Davis on December 4, 2010 at 11:46pm
David,

Actually I would very much appreciate it if you did! I am trying to grow as a writer and I will only be able to do that if I am comfortable with putting my ideas "out there" and defending them. Also, at the same time I am working on this book I am trying to get my name out there to an extent in an attempt to "get noticed" if you will. So please, feel free to post my articles on Facebook.

VR,
Tony
Comment by david perry on December 4, 2010 at 11:37pm
@Tony- Would you mind if I posted these articles on Facebook?
Comment by Tony Davis on December 4, 2010 at 11:34pm
Joseph,

Hey thanks! In my book manuscript I try to use humor at several points. One of the very few people I've had read it (because frankly it just isn't ready for public consumption) is a hard ass Marine with non sense of humor. He told me that it was not appropriate and that I sounded like a smart ass. But everyone else liked it, and frankly, it's who I am and how I talk to people so I am keeping it in. Honestly, if I am successful at all with this first book I have two others that I've already been plugging away at for some time when I'm bored and one of them is nothing more that humorous things that have happened along my way through life.
Comment by Joseph P on December 4, 2010 at 10:47pm
Very good use of Norm (and his parenthetical nearsightedness). Entertaining your readers is a good step towards getting them to listen to you. This is one of the reasons Dawkins is so heavily followed.
Comment by Tony Davis on December 4, 2010 at 7:31pm
Hey folks. I just hit "publish" on an article addressing the fine tuning argument. If anyone cares to read it, as always any feedback, good or bad, is greatly appreciated! Especially, if anyone more educated that myself (which does not take much) in the areas of physics and cosmology wants to give me a sanity check that would be awesome!

It is located here: http://www.examiner.com/skepticism-in-washington-dc/refutations-of-...
 

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