ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.

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The portrait is Charles Darwin, age 31, in 1840

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Ancestral humans had more DNA

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Researhers Turn Off Obesity Gene in Mice

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Mini moons may zip around Earth

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explanation for reality Theism or Atheism?

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Fossils illustrate evolution of life

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On Abolishing Religion

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Researchers Say There Might be Life After Death

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On the scientific miracles of Qur'an

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Modern Humans Interbred with Neanderthals in Europe

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Comment by Rudy V Kiist on December 1, 2009 at 9:06pm
I posted it on the other site, Adrian. And for the record I don't actually disagree with either of you (Ogden and Adrian) or Larry. Read what I got there.
Comment by Ogden Lafaye on December 1, 2009 at 7:50pm
Atheist Nexus does not allow religionists to post here. For the same reasons, climate/environment boards should not allow Larry Lawson types to post.

Horses to water and pearls before swine and all that.

Larry innate sense that we are all wrong from what he has experienced and learned over the years...and even though he has no related education whatsoever and seems to demonstrate a position akin to a flat-earther, Jesus worshipper etc., I really believe he has simply taken a position long ago, against authority...any authority and revels in questioning the authority of the people here. This questioning is not to learn anything but rather to disturb and distress while running out theories and slants he has developed over the years.

I am afraid Larry is a troll.
Comment by Rudy V Kiist on December 1, 2009 at 3:59pm
Holy crap you guys have been busy (^_^)...I take it John and Larry didn't watch much news this weekend? I say this because a leaked report on climate change has stated that reports were exaggerated on time lines and severity of GW. Albeit, this does not conflict with the data per say, but I find it interesting. Of course, this brings up my point. I don't argue it's not happening, I also strongly believe we need to something about pollution, emissions, etc. for many reasons besides GW. Mine's more of a fascination with the human mind and thinking. Especially the 3 hardest words for someone to say (especially a scientist) "I don't know". It could be as bad as Adrian says or it could be worse. We could end up with newly needed farmland in northern Canada, Russia, and Europe in 50-100 years....We don't know. In the meantime, let's clean up the environment.

And I want to make one more point on "realism". Adrian, I assume you make a decent living and are not suffering from hunger or disease? Well why don't you go tell the people of third world nations from your cozy home, that GW will make the death they're experiencing worse...good luck on that.
Comment by David Miller on December 1, 2009 at 3:52pm
Facinating discussion but horrible placement for it. I just started a global warming thread under science. Please everyone continue this conversation there.

Also I think that all of you participating are very intelligent people, who are also very proud. It's a combination that can easily lead to a sort of bullheaded certainty in ones words that can lead to hurt feelings from like minded people. I think that virtually everyone acted like jerks at some point in the discussion thus far and that we should let bygones be bygones. Again, let us resume this conversation where it belongs: http://www.atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/global-warming-what-do-you
Comment by Susan Stanko on December 1, 2009 at 3:33pm
I agree with Don. You give your arguments without bullying anyone.
Comment by Nate on December 1, 2009 at 3:10pm
Oceans Absorbing Carbon Dioxide More Slowly, Scientist Finds

ScienceDaily (Nov. 27, 2009) — The world's oceans are absorbing less carbon dioxide (CO2), a Yale geophysicist has found after pooling data taken over the past 50 years. With the oceans currently absorbing over 40 percent of the CO2 emitted by human activity, this could quicken the pace of climate change, according to the study, which appears in the November 25 issue of Geophysical Research Letters.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091124140957.htm

Sorry if this was mentioned before, there's a lot to wade through here.
Comment by Susan Stanko on December 1, 2009 at 1:54pm
Larry,
You know I was sympathetic to you until you decided to assume what type of person I am based on no evidence what so ever. You were given evidence but insist on beleiving what you want. Do theories get changed based on new evidence? Yes. Should science just stop making predictions because they might be wrong>?NO.
Comment by Susan Stanko on December 1, 2009 at 1:25pm
Larry, I am not a scientist in anyway but, I took your statement to mean exactly how Ogden took it to mean. The only person who seems to be acting unreasonable is you.

BTW, I read in Science News that Scientists never claimed a Global Cooling phenomena. Some people who refuse to accept Global Warming are using out of context quotes to make scientists look stupid.
Comment by Constance Ward on December 1, 2009 at 11:12am
What an fun debate to observe! However, it seems that this debate is getting quite heated so I thought I'd point out something that made me laugh in spite of the heated words. Does anyone else find it funny that it seems the worst name one can call someone on this site is a religionist or anything like that? Anyway, just thought I'd point that out because even though I don't really like name calling I glad that I'm on a site where people know that being called a religionist implies being close-minded and illogical and thus is an insult. Now I don't have any scientific credentials but I figured that I will go ahead and add my 2 cents in on this debate too. I really don't see where the people who don't wish to do anything about global warming are coming from. Do you not believe that the world is warming? If you do, who cares what caused it (even though, from what I hear, evidence point to human activities being a factor) the effects are bad for us either way and so we ought to do as much as we can to stop these effects (or at least lessen the damage).
Comment by Rudy V Kiist on December 1, 2009 at 10:16am
My problem is I just discovered Pen & Teller's Bullshit program and some of it is sinking in...LOL
 

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