ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.

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The portrait is Charles Darwin, age 31, in 1840

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Neanderthals, Denisovans and ancestor X

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The evolution of work

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Has man evolved?

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The Probability Of Being

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Johns Hopkins Receives $125,000,000 to Fight Cancer

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A new theory explaining the origins of life?

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Map of Archaic Ancestry

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Homo Erectus food processing

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Comment by Marc Draco on July 10, 2010 at 11:19am
Depends on where they live, Monon. In the UK it's fine - even though it's not really recognised as such because of our connections to the church. Things are slowly changing though.

In the US things are more frightening. Right-wing conservatives can make people's lives very unpleasant if they are "outed" as non-believers. It's a cultural thing: borne out of centuries of absolute, unqualified belief. It's not going to go away in a few decades.
Comment by david hartley on July 8, 2010 at 7:01am
Interesting things coming up from the exploration of the deep Atlantic including 10 possible new species. Including new varieties of the Entropnuest Acorn Worm considered a Transitional form between Inverterbrates and Verterbrates ie; no obvious brain or senses but the beginnings of a backbone. The results should be interesting once more of the finds have been classified and the results published. They were working at 12,000 feet and have tentatively identified 10 new species. No direct link but it's on MSNBC science and tech page.
Comment by Jason Spicer on July 4, 2010 at 4:35am
The IDiots fail to grasp that designed things are invariably simpler, more streamlined, and more efficient than living things. Extreme complexity is a sign of trial and error, not design. It's truly amazing how backwards they have it. And since they lie about everything else, I'm confident that the Discovery Institute is lying about the Coppedge lawsuit.
Comment by Daniel on July 3, 2010 at 9:38pm
I tried to watch Ben Stein's "Expelled" to try to give some intellectual time to see any points the other side of the argument may have had. After being noticeably agitated by nonsense, I had to turn it off around the 30m mark.
Comment by Robert Tobin on July 3, 2010 at 8:54pm
I did something I usually don't do. I subscribed to a Web Site before checking it out properly. Access Research Network http://www.arn.org/

I had been directed to a news report there:

Discrimination Lawsuit Filed against NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab for Harassing and Demoting Supporter of Intelligent Design

As reported in ENV by Anika Smith...Supervisors at NASA's prestigious Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) illegally harassed and demoted a high-level computer system administrator for expressing support of intelligent design to co-workers, according to a discrimination lawsuit filed in California Superior Court.
The lawsuit was filed by attorneys on behalf of David Coppedge, an information technology specialist and system administrator on JPL's Cassini mission to Saturn, the most ambitious interplanetary exploration ever launched. The Jet Propulsion Laboratory is a NASA laboratory managed by the California Institute of Technology (Caltech) where robotic planetary spacecraft, such as the Mars Rovers, are built and operated. Coppedge was a "Team Lead" Systems Administrator on the Cassini mission until JPL demoted him for allegedly "pushing religion" by loaning interested co-workers DVDs supportive of intelligent design.
"For the offense of offering videos to colleagues, Coppedge faced harassment, an investigation cloaked in secrecy, and a virtual gag order on his discussion of intelligent design," said attorney Casey Luskin of Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture. Luskin serves as a consultant to the Coppedge lawsuit. "Coppedge was punished even though supervisors admitted never receiving a single complaint regarding his conversations about intelligent design prior to their investigation, and even though other employees were allowed to express diverse ideological opinions, including attacking intelligent design."

As some of you know NASA is my passion. I follow every one of it's missions. I have tonnes of printed material about NASA. In that news item I have highlighted Casey Luskin. Notice where he is from. I have a friend on Facebook from NASA. He told me that JPL was correct in what it did.

On subscribing I was given free access to a screen saver of Hubble Images: ARN Universe Screen Saver for Windows. Includes 14 spectacular Hubble Space Telescope photos and quotes from noted scientists and philosophers about the origin of the universe. When I downloaded it and ran it, to my horror the images were peppered with BS about "Intelligent Design". I immediately uninstalled that screen saver, unsubscribed from the site and sent the director, Dennis Warner a nasty e-mail.

These bloody brain dead IDers use any scullerous means to flog their bullshit.
Comment by AtheistTech on July 3, 2010 at 8:32pm
I have a Darwin "fish" on my car as well as a bumper sticker that says "Can I teach Evolution in your church?"
Comment by Daniel on June 12, 2010 at 6:41pm
Another fascinating insight into the origins of life:

Why do viruses kill? (I thought virus plural was virii?)
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTQ4NjUwMTEy.html
Comment by nick altman on June 12, 2010 at 4:24pm
The Secret Life of Chaos was a bit of an epiphany for me.

Coming to learn, to a point of intuitiveness, the processes of natural selection mentally, and then later in life depicted in this documentary, seeing the demonstration of a perpetual loop of slightly altered feedback developing into such wonderful branches and patterns, it seemed to demonstrate to me a bit about the fabric of reality itself in a way I never thought I'd know.

Suddenly I could see how every aspect of reality could seem to inevitably develop by itself from the most simplistic and elegant system of rules.

I would replace Darwin with Turing in some way, but for the fact that without the idea of evolution and natural selection, my insight into self emergent patterns would not be what it is.
Comment by Daniel on June 12, 2010 at 3:52pm
My respect for Alan Turing has outpaced Darwin after watching:

The Secret Life of Chaos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HACkykFlIus

What do you think?
Comment by Aberingi on May 23, 2010 at 12:03pm
Do we need a Universal Atheist Symbol?
http://www.atheistnexus.org/video/universal-atheist-symbol-2007-1
Atheist eye. Ojo ateo A = negation of T = theism O = equality
 

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