ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

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ORIGINS: UNIVERSE, LIFE, HUMANKIND, AND DARWIN

We debate origins of the Universe, life, Earth, humans, religion, atheism, using common sense, evolution, cosmology, geology, archaeology, and other sciences, to repel biblical creationism and other religious beliefs.

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Comment by Joseph P on April 14, 2012 at 6:10pm
I can deduce the likely discussion subject and recipient of the term, but I can't remember the term itself, at this point, without combing through the entire discussion history of Atheist Singles and Secular Sexuality.
Comment by Richard ∑wald on April 14, 2012 at 6:08pm

"what is that term you once used to suggest we ignore a person"

The old usenet term is kill-file.

Ahhh… usenet. I like what Gene "Spaff" Spafford said about usenet:

Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea -- massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it. ~ 1992

Some things never change.

Comment by Joseph P on April 14, 2012 at 5:42pm
*shrug*

Dunno. I'm not sure which one you're referring to.
Comment by Joseph P on April 14, 2012 at 4:43pm

Chris, you're missing the base point here.

No one gives a damn who you are.  If what you say is completely ignorant crap, then you being an 'important person' doesn't change a thing.  You're the only one bringing this up, as if it's supposed to mean anything.

 

We have many college professors on here, in relevant fields to have an official opinion about evolutionary biology, cosmology, or something similar.  We only ever hear about their credentials when they tell a story about something their students have done or when something relates directly to their job.

What they say on the subject stands on its own points, and they generally quote sources and show where the information is.  You throw out random crap, and when challenged on it, you start puffing yourself up as some sort of general authority figure, since you're supposedly such an important person.  That's not the way that you make an argument to non-authoritarian people.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 14, 2012 at 2:12pm

Sarah, isn't that a familiar story! There is an old saying that one is who he/she was when ten years old. I don't believe that, most of us can incorporate new beliefs and styles; on the other hand, have you noticed the generational differences in how one fixes his/her hair or trims fingernails. So many of the generation older than I still wear hair styles and nail trims as that generation. I know, it is a stereotype; just saying ....  

Add to that the beliefs taught children from the day they are born about faith and belief and we can begin to understand the formidable challenges change creates

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 14, 2012 at 2:05pm

@ chris tidman How does 

"I couldn't find The Flying Atheist at LinkedIn.  You are obviously a fake." 

How does not finding  him in LinkedIn make The Flying Atheist a fake? 

I am in LinkedIn; does that make me not a fake? 

What has LinkedIn got to do with making one fake or not fake? 

I have been invited into many Who's Who directories; does that make me not a fake? Does the fact that I decline the "honor" make me fake or not fake? 

Comment by Sarah Walton on April 14, 2012 at 2:00pm

Joan: Tell me about it! I'm especially interested in astronomy and I am amazed daily by new developments in the field.

I took an earth science class in university, and my professor told us that when he was going to university there were several geology professors who refused to teach plate tectonics, stubbornly refusing to see the preponderance of evidence. My professor observed that they probably knew damn well that the theory was right, but hen they'd have to back down on a lifetime of professional science work!

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 14, 2012 at 1:55pm

@Sarah, what a great idea! And the great thing about having these sciences as a hobby means you never run out of material to read or experience and there are new discoveries daily.

My Dad did not "believe" in tectonic plates of the planet and we had some really stupid arguments. But it was a generational thing. He had a lot to teach me, but not about geology. 

Kind of like religion. There may be some aspects that enrich one's life, such as community, but it is not a history or science tradition.

The difference is, geology, biology, and astronomy are based on observable facts and those facts change often, not to diminish the science, but to make it more accurate.

Religion is a failed social paradigm because it bases its "facts" on stories, myths, wishful thinking, and the desire to be dependent. Too bad the dependence exists as a dream, not a reality. 

Comment by Sarah Walton on April 14, 2012 at 1:34pm

Chantal & Joan: I've been watching a lot of geology documentaries lately, getting me interested in a topic I wasn't previously interested in. Maybe I'll look into some geo classes as well; I was considering auditing biology and astronomy classes just so I can play with their lab equipment!

Comment by The Flying Atheist on April 14, 2012 at 1:32pm

Chris, paying monthly to be in a club such as the Stanford Who's Who doesn't give you a credible reputation, it just provides you with PR marketing exposure.  

 

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