What's Wrong With the South?

What is it about the south, they, more often than most, end up suffering the most?

"Southern states perform poorly on a wide range of economic indicators. MARIO TAMA/GETTY IMAGES"

"A new study shows that climate change will produce much harsher effects in the poorest regions of the United States."

"for the first time, climatologists and economists have gathered a “strong-evidenced based relationship between temperatures and damage (at county levels).”

"there will be winners and losers from climate change within the United States,”

~ Amir Jina, co-author of the study and a University of Chicago economist.Jul. 7, 2017

"Jina and his colleagues used climate projections that contain carbon pollution and advanced the current model until 2100.

"Next, they framed the impact of climate change on eight economic indicators including agriculture, energy expenditures, mortality, labor productivity, crime and coastal damage from sea level rise. Poor counties fared terribly from the model tests.

Emphasis mine

"Climate change is expected to cause an average GDP loss of 11 percent for the poorest 100 U.S. counties, most of which are located in the southern region. Contrarily, only a 1 percent GDP loss is projected for the richest 100 counties.

“County-level estimates will have important implications for adaptation and resilience planning, and, as the paper emphasizes, the findings tell a new and compelling story about within-country distributional effects of climate damage.”

"Convincing the U.S. Federal Government to take action on these findings may very well be the most groundbreaking scientific task yet. In June, U.S. President Donald Trump announced his plans to pull out of the 2015 Paris Climate Accord.

~ Alternet, https://www.juancole.com/2017/07/climate-change-research.html

“In order to fulfill my solemn duty to protect America and its citizens, the United States will withdraw from the Paris climate accord,”

~ Trump, in the White House Rose Garden address.

I wonder how Trump intends to "protect America and its citizens," by the withdrawal from the Paris climate accord?

Doesn't the South have enough relentless problems? How can this Trump action improve the lot of anyone .... except the fossil energy businesses?

Views: 74

Replies to This Discussion

When I was in Germany during the early 1980s, we had to cross from West Germany to East Germany through an "S" shaped gate that was a gate through the "Berlin Wall" at Checkpoint Charlie. We took a 90-degree turn right; then another 90-degree turn left to get through the gate. These were thick walls, too strong for cars or buses to break through. 

Il Checkpoint Charlie di Berlino nel 1965

The difference between West and East Berlin was night and day. In West Berlin, all the buildings had been repaired and painted bright, clean colors, of tan, yellow, pinks, greens, and even purples, covering up and fixing the WW II bullets and bombs damage. Beautiful lawns, gardens, and parks filled with trees and flowers were everywhere. Street cafes with musicians playing among the tables was a common sight. The delicious food included my favorite, Beef Rouladen, and it tasted delicious. The only one who makes it better is me. 

In East Berlin, bullets and bombs damage remained, the unpainted, unrepaired buildings revealed WW II damage, there were no green lawns, shrubs, or flowers. The people were somber, with few smiles and never a cheerful greeting. I ate at an indoor cafe, the staff were curt, and the food was ordinary. Nothing at all like the Sauerbraten or Labskaus to which I had become accustomed. 

West and East Berlin shared the same water, air, soils, and the only differences were political. 

That is how I see North and South U.S., the same water, air, soils, and the only differences are political and religious. 

Humm! I wonder if politics and religion can impact a nation so profoundly?

Great comparison, Joan. And thanks for the personal experience.

Joan, I lived in some of the urban South for 15 years: St. Pete, a university town (Gainesville), a university city (Tallahassee, the state capital) and Daytona Beach.

Your post tells of the rural and uneducated and religious South, where people are the prey of predatory political elites. Conditions such as hopelessness afflict them too.

It was dreadful, Tom, the first time I drove across the southern tier, which was mostly U.S. 10, I saw shacks and shanties every bit as wretched as the huts I saw in Turkey, Mexico, and China. As long as we have people living on dirt floors, houses without running water, open ditches flowing with excreta, people living in rags, and people afraid to speak out against domination, I cannot say, "I love America." 

Yes, I have been in St. Pete, Gainsville, Tallahassee, and Daytona Beach. Great towns, lots of fun things to do, friendly college kids, and responsible citizens. 

I have also been in towns with signs on businesses, "Blacks Enter in Back," "White only."

Sure, some people claim that those days are over! Really? Tell me about it!


Trump’s “religious liberty” executive order is meant to legalize anti-LGBT discrimination — and may be unconstitutional

POLICE KILLING OF BLACKS: Data for 2015, 2016, 2017

Updated May  16th, 2017


When comparing 2016 to 2015, those that were unarmed (no weapon of any kind) that were killed by police continued to be disproportionally black, relative to the population size. However, the black/white racial discrepancy in the portion of the population compared to the portion of those that were unarmed when killed by police has decreased.


"In comparison to other advanced economies, the U.S. had high levels of hunger even during the first few years of the 21st century, due in part to greater inequality and relatively less spending on welfare. As was generally the case across the world, hunger in the U.S. was made worse by the lasting global inflation in the price of food that began in late 2006 and by the financial crisis of 2008. By 2012, about 50 million Americans were food insecure, approximately 1 in 6 of the population, with the proportion of children facing food insecurity even higher at about 1 in 4.

 William A Dando, ed. (2012). "passim, see esp Food Assistance Landscapes in the United States by Andrew Walters and Food Aid Policies in the United States: Contrasting views by Ann Myatt James ; also see Historiography of Food". Food and Famine in the 21st CenturyABC-CLIOISBN 1598847309.



By Giselle Routhier, Policy Director, Coalition for the Homeless, March 2017.

"New York City remains in the midst of the worst crisis of homelessness since the Great Depression, with more than 62,000 men, women, and children sleeping in shelters each night. A chronic shortage of affordable housing and the potent combination of rising rents and stagnant wages have fueled a daunting and unabated 79 percent increase in the demand for shelter in the last decade. Three-quarters of New Yorkers staying in shelters are within families, and children constitute an alarming 38 percent of all those in shelters. There is no question that the City and State can implement solutions that work, but in order to match the unprecedented need, they must both accelerate and bring to scale their respective affordable and supportive housing production pipelines." 

Some of the bravest people I met sinse the 2007-8 Recession have been men and women who could not find enough work to feed and shelter their children. I attempted to teach them permaculture so they could feed themselves but most had been away from farming/gardening for so long, they could not see the benefit. I attempted to inform them about scaling down housing, they simply felt helpless to do anything constructive to solve their housing problems. I worked with Community Centers to develop community gardens and the centers learned everything I had to teach them, however, the welfare mentality prevented hungry & homeless from seeing what they could do to help themselves. 

I don't believe in letting people freeze or starve, especially since so many of them have one kind of illness or another. When I tore my tendon in my foot, I became immobile, even with a fine assortment of tools, i.e. a cane, wheelchair, porti-potty, and excellent medical care. 

We must develop a more effective, efficient social services to meet the unmet needs of so many of our citizens. With the current administration, better programs to help people seem improbable. 

The only "America" Trump cares about is male, white, Christian, and ultra-wealthy, nobody else is a "Real American".

The rest of us will have to make him care or remove him.

Attempts to do the first will fail, so....

Trump seems not to have "care" gene, other than for himself and his pleasures. I am in favor of removing him, meaning impeachment. If he gets shot he will become a martyr for the poor, hungry, homeless, unemployed, underemployed to worship.

The man speaks rubbish, the masses believe him. 

Impeachment will require making enough Repubs in Congress fear a loss in 2018. It requires 218 votes in the House and conviction requires 67 in the Senate.

If Dems cooperate, fewer Repubs will be needed.

Via the 25th(?) Amendment, the VP and a cabinet majority can 'set him aside' until they decide he's capable of resuming the office.

I agree, Ruth. 




Update Your Membership :



Nexus on Social Media:

Latest Activity

Patricia commented on Ivy's group Atheist Humor
22 minutes ago
Plinius commented on Ivy's group Atheist Humor
45 minutes ago
Patricia commented on Ivy's group Atheist Humor
3 hours ago
Joan Denoo commented on Ivy's group Atheist Humor
4 hours ago
Joan Denoo replied to Ruth Anthony-Gardner's discussion Mind Control Speech Pathology in the group No Nonsense
4 hours ago
Idaho Spud commented on Ivy's group Atheist Humor
5 hours ago
Steve Snyder liked Joan Denoo's group Death & dying
6 hours ago
Steve Snyder replied to Adam's discussion Funding
6 hours ago

© 2018   Atheist Nexus. All rights reserved. Admin: The Nexus Group.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service