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Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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Skepticism

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius May 14. 7 Replies

We, you and I, claim to live in a democracy, a place where the rule of law stands higher than the rule of man. We believe such fallacies because that is what we learned in school, from the first time we stood tall and proud and repeated the "pledge…Continue

Tags: propaganda, tRump, manipulation, fraud, mendacity

The Republicans are going to kill Robert Samuel White's mother.

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by tom sarbeck May 5. 1 Reply

This Twitter thread from Robert Samuel White, telling his family's story and reacting to yesterday's House passage of the American Health "Care" Act that will…Continue

Tags: GOP, Republican Party, Republicans, Greedy Old Party, insurance

Agriculture and religion have much in common, other than bull shit.

Started by Joan Denoo May 4. 0 Replies

Sixty some years ago I started college with a major in horticulture at Washington State College (now university). The first day of class, our prof, Dr. Woody Kalin, explained to us that we would be working with soil, and there was a difference…Continue

Tags: probability, opportunity, possibility, preferability., revolution

New Rule: What Would a Dick Do? (Bill Maher)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Apr 11. 4 Replies

Lead bullets?  Asbestos?!?  Rolling back mileage requirements that the automobile industry had already agreed to???  Such moves aren't just stupid or pandering to the corporate state, they are, to put it succinctly, DICK MOVES, put into motion by…Continue

Tags: move, dick, president, Drumpf, Donald Trump

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Comment by Joan Denoo on March 21, 2017 at 4:48pm

This article is relatively old, written before the election,

but it addresses the Southern Strategy and its long-range consequences. 

"Dems can launch what Howard Dean called for in 2005: a 50-state strategy that runs on liberating issues. Instead of ignoring GOP bigotry, the Democratic ticket can promise to challenge it on every front and attack reactionary Republicans who try to impose the past on voters.

Above all, Democrats should demand that Tea Party rebels explain why they are in league with a party that intends to cut Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security in order to finance more tax cuts for billionaires. As Scott Lilly suggested, if common folks ever understand the corrupt nature of the Republican coalition, we will see a popular rebellion that makes the present chaos look like, well, a tea party."

~ William GreiderOCTOBER 12, 2015

Why Today’s GOP Crackup Is the Final Unraveling of Nixon’s ‘Southern Strategy’

Tea Party rebels are exposing the deep rifts between country-club elites and social-issue hard-liners.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 21, 2017 at 3:57pm

Grinning Cat, your comics make me laugh, for once. The news is so grim, I appreciate a grim-relief of any kind. 

Comment by Grinning Cat on March 21, 2017 at 3:15pm

The GOP budget eliminates a lot. Here are TRUMP'S NEW PROGRAMS - No more Meals on Wheels, but FEELS ON WHEELS available in the presidential limo (Trump: “I will help all the needy ladies.”) - Chemical Safety Board, which prevents industrial disasters, replaced with a Twitter feed (“@ChemicalSafetyUSA: Only LOSERS have accidents!” “@ChemicalSafetyUSA: Bunsen the Safety Bear sez: [cartoon of flaming bear in lab coat and eye shield] 'Fire hurts!'” - With PBS defunded, Sesame Street replaced with SESAME GULAG (cartoon: Mr. Snuffleupagus breaking rocks in a prison camp, thinking “Sigh.”) - Americorps to be replaced with AMERICORPSE (cartoon: dead Uncle Sam, flies buzzing overhead)(via Alternet. click to enlarge)

Comment by Grinning Cat on March 20, 2017 at 5:53pm

Couple seeing the “Trump Budget” plane overhead, “They’ve got new rules for drone strikes...” Surrounding them on the ground, a university or lab building labeled “Research”, an ambulance labeled “Health”, a forest labeled “Environment”, a domed telescope labeled “Science”, a statue labeled “Arts”, and a (presumably school) building labeled “Education”.

Comment by Grinning Cat on March 20, 2017 at 3:23pm

Take my $1.37 - I want my PBS. (etc.) Found on Twitter via Steve Silberman; similar quotes are all over Facebook, Tumblr, etc.

Take my $1.37… I want my PBS. Take my $.46… I am all for federal funding of art programs. Take my $.46… I love my museums, colleges, and libraries. Take my $.11… I support developing minority businesses. Take my $.66… I am for entrepreneurship and innovation. Take my $1.60… I want us to export more goods overseas. Take my $0.43… I would like to see more American manufacturing. Take my $0.88… I think community policing needs vast improvement. Take my $1.48… I support programs for women. Take my $1.55… I believe in due process for all. Take my $0.48… We need a civil rights division in the justice department. Take my $0.38… I think we need to defend our Mother Earth. Take my $0.03… I know more work needs to be done for climate change. Take my $8.95… because we need more sustainable energy. Take my $2.71… we should reduce our carbon footprint. If saving these programs means I’m out $22.36 a year, I’m good. Now give me back the $575 I pay to keep the war machine running and the $368 I pay in corporate welfare to Big Oil and Walmart.(click to enlarge; copy and paste into Notepad, etc. to get plain text)

Comment by Joseph P on March 17, 2017 at 11:15pm

Joseph, clearly, I don't have a clue about this technical age and all the protocols. However, if there is a dispute, as there seems to be in this case, of public VPN or VPN, what are the pros and cons of each side? Or, am I assuming there are sides where none exist?

A VPN (virtual private network) is just a security protocol that enables a secure connection between your computer and some other point on the internet.  A VPN is encryption-based, so that the information cannot be read by anyone who intercepts the information along the way.

Try to visualize it this way.  Imagine a rubber tube going through the vastly larger pipe that is the data-channels of the internet, finally ending at a VPN server.  Effectively, since the information that you send a receive is going from your computer to the VPN server through that rubber tube, everything else on the internet thinks that you're actually where that VPN server is.  Without a VPN, the information that you send and receive just emerges from your modem onto the internet, and everyone can see where you are.

Say you want to watch one of the BBC channels online.  Those are available for free, inside of Great Britain.  So, what you can do is connect to a VPN server in Great Britain, then connect to the BBC website through that.  The BBC website thinks that you're coming from inside of Great Britain, so it lets you stream the channels.

In the corporate world, VPNs allow people to work from home and get access to things as if they were sitting in the office.  Since they have the rubber tube going from their home to the server in the office, they can get access to important documents that they need to do work, without running the risk of those documents being stolen.

I'm not sure what sort of dispute you're thinking of.  VPN software is just a thing.  I think Loren was mostly just talking about people trying to ban VPN programs because of the way that supposedly anti-regulation Republicans like to impose horrific restrictions on the common people for the benefit of their corporate masters.  Republicans often try to do that, imposing silly restrictions on things that they don't understand, because they don't like those things.  They seem to do that more then the Democrats do, lately, at any rate.

It couldn't actually work.  VPN software is so integral to the functioning of the internet that if congress tried to ban it, they ... well ... couldn't.  You could outlaw the use of it by anyone who didn't have a corporate need for it ... because corporate networks can't function as needed without them.

I'm sure you can come up with enough reasons why that sort of selective banning just wouldn't work.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 16, 2017 at 10:45pm

Gary, the name, Kenneth Boulding, rises out of my long ago studies. 

I learned of General Systems Theory at Whitworth Collge (now University) and developed a framework to understand ideas and communicate them with others. Whether economics, politics, religion or lack of it, or psychology, or sociology, by creating a frame upon which to build ideas and transmit them to others or receive information from others' ideas we can grow in knowledge and understanding. It requires interdisciplinary thinking.  

His wife, Elise M. Boulding, was a sociologist, and contributor to creating the academic discipline of Peace and Conflict Studies. Her Building a Culture of Peace: Some Priorities rang bells for me. 

"Back in the 1960s we were beginning to uncover data that showed the amount of the basic work of the planet that was being done by women. Eighty percent of the farming was being done by women and anything that had to do with protecting the environment: the forests, the waters—you name it—much of our research showed that it was women who did it. "

"it was women who managed that kind of diplomacy that would keep groups from fighting each other too much."

Oh! Elise, whatever happened to our nation and to the Earth? We didn't listen to you and your husband.  

Those of us who read your ideas created an image of a preferred world, one in which each person mattered, all contributed something to the group, and everyone was fed, housed, had health care and had access to education. 

A dream deferred ...

 

 

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 16, 2017 at 9:49pm

Joseph, clearly, I don't have a clue about this technical age and all the protocols. However, if there is a dispute, as there seems to be in this case, of public VPN or VPN, what are the pros and cons of each side? Or, am I assuming there are sides where none exist? 

Comment by Gary S on March 16, 2017 at 8:34pm

I should have also added this quote from an Economist:

Anyone who believes exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. - Kenneth Boulding

Comment by Gary S on March 16, 2017 at 8:29pm

I have liked this quote from Chris Hedges for a while: "Trump is emblematic of what anthropologists call 'crisis cults.' A society in terminal decline often retreats into magical thinking."

 
 
 

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