Politics, Economics, and Religion


Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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What is the purpose of life?

An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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Welfare? Who pays into the pot more than they get out? Who takes out more ?

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck yesterday. 1 Reply

Welfare? Who benefits? Who pays? “Residents of “blue” states send more tax money to Washington than they get back in federal help, while residents of “red” states send less money to Washington than they get back in federal help.”  For  every tax…Continue

Tags: Reich, Robert, spending, taxes, welfare

Democrat vs. Republican

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner 12 hours ago. 2 Replies

The central U.S. opened like a fissure, threatening a volcanic eruption spewing out hate clothed in white supremacist ideology, spreading its deadly gases over the land. Officials tossed out legitimate voter registrations, closed down voting places,…Continue

Trump capitalizes on the tensions of the declining middle class

Started by Joan Denoo Oct 31. 0 Replies

Germany, after WW I, economically devastated, and overwhelmed by the Versailles treaty, was forced to pay incredibly heavy reparations to France and Great Britain. The political strains and conflicts made Germany particularly vulnerable. They built…Continue

Tags: exploit, manipulate, dominate, class, middle

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Comment by Tom Sarbeck on November 6, 2018 at 2:33am

On Gore v. Nader in 2000.

Joan, seven Sarbecks lived in Florida from 1947 to 1965. I went to college and worked there. By 1980 my parents had died but three of my sibs and their kids were still there. I was paying attention.

State political parties weakened when, decades earlier, candidates started doing their own fundraising. Florida’s Dems didn’t know Nader had so many supporters and votes.

National Dems didn’t tell Gore to take some of Nader’s issues and support. Gore didn’t do it.

State and national Democrats were to blame but HAD TO BLAME someone else.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 6, 2018 at 12:55am

I understand there continue to be those who blame losses of the Democrats to Ralph Nader in the 2000 presidential election.

George W. Bush defeated Al Gore by 537 votes.

Nader received 97,421 votes. This led to claims that he was responsible for Gore's defeat. Oh! how I wish Gore had won!

People continue to make fun of Gore and his climate change claims. Read this dreadful piece from  2015, Global warming is totally a lie liberals tell to distract us from t....

There is no joy in the direction USA took in 2000. If we had begun a comprehensive effort to face the reality of climate change at that time, then we may have come farther along in correcting our mistakes.

The old  "If," "then," is at work. Now, this election, we can get the rascals out of office. The skunks in the henhouse present disgustingly awful obstacles to overcome. Well, we have faced challenges before and we can do it again. 

Comment by Grinning Cat on November 5, 2018 at 11:41pm

Some of the minor-party candidates may indeed be the best to meet our long-term challenges of remaining on a habitable planet...

Unfortunately, in current US politics, any general-election vote for a Green Party candidate, or a Libertarian, or any other minor party candidate, or an independent, or not voting -- any failure to vote for the Democrat -- is throwing away your power to help defeat the Republican.

(Lots about better voting systems at rangevoting.org .)

And given that

  1. the Republican Party clearly adheres to an objectively evil "party before country" party line, especially on things that shouldn't be goddamned partisan issues, and this enables the tRump/​Pence/​Putin/​oligarch/​corporate agenda; and that
  2. the majority parties in the Senate, and in the House, and as a rule in state legislative chambers, get a disproportionate advantage and gain control of the agenda. It's all or nothing. In each house of Congress, the majority party gets all the committee chairmanships and all the committee majorities, determining which bills can be debated and voted on by the full chamber. The majority party also gets to set the rules to their advantage. And that
  3. the majority party in the Senate can take the president's blatantly partisan, biased, and unfit nominees for the Supreme Court or lower federal courts, and ram them through despite the American people pleading for them to stop. Then stacked courts can employ contorted reasoning, worthy of the Flying Spaghetti Monster's evil twin, to justify whatever absurdities and atrocities they want. And things are constitutional or not if the Supreme Court says so. Think Dred Scott, Bowers v. Hardwick, Citizens United, Hobby Lobby... And that
  4. with a stacked Congress and judiciary, a lot of fights over our rights and protections will likely devolve to the different states, making state legislators, governors, attorneys general, judges, mayors, city legislators, school board members, and so on and so forth, more important than ever...

...that's why I'm VOTING BLUE NO MATTER WHO. And helping get out the vote, helping others do the same. (Blue wave whose crest is a bald eagle's head) Create the BLUE TSUNAMI - VOTE

Comment by Grinning Cat on November 5, 2018 at 11:18pm

About the current US president*'s reelection prospects:

(photo of Donald Trump) I'm going to serve two terms - one in federal prison and one in New York State prison

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on November 5, 2018 at 9:20pm

Environmentalists, when I was one in 1970s Arizona, were saying, “In this land of the free and home of the brave, you have to be brave if you want to be free.”

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 5, 2018 at 7:51pm

Which kind of nation is the U.S.A.? 

Some hold an almost comical notion of what our nation is. There are flag wavers, those who pretend they are brave and free. Obviously they do not live up to the image of “The home of the brave, the land of the free.“

Take a look at the historical U.S.A. Its citizen claimed to be the nation of freedom and the birthplace of democracy while owning slaves. Others took the land of Native-born people claiming to give them land that would support them. In too many cases, the land was barren,  rocky, steep, with few reliable water sources. Blacks, Mexicans, Indians, and women could not vote; they were held responsible for being a good citizen but had no voice in the decision-making process. 

Look now at the modern U.S.A. All the people of the Earth face the challenges of a climate change that appears to be beyond the ability to stop. We will have to learn skills and develop governments that meet the changing environment. 

Who are the candidates in Tuesday’s election who will be best able to meet those challenges? Who looks to the legacy we leave to empower the seventh generation?

Comment by Grinning Cat on October 31, 2018 at 1:09pm

If your Vote wasn't important Republicans wouldn't work so hard to steal it

Comment by Tom Sarbeck on October 23, 2018 at 3:10pm

Bert, there are models we can trust, and there’s the Big Bang model.

Nix spoke of a model TO predict. Did it predict?

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on October 23, 2018 at 12:57pm

Very interesting Medium article by Dave Smith:

Weapons of Micro Destruction: How Our ‘Likes’ Hijacked Democracy

Excel file reveals the Data Science behind the Facebook/Cambridge Analytica Scandal

“We were able to form a model to predict the personality of every single adult in the United States of America.” — Alexander Nix, former CEO of Cambridge Analytica

Comment by Patricia on October 14, 2018 at 12:46pm

Yes, I passed it around to several sites myself.




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