Politics, Economics, and Religion


Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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What is the purpose of life?

An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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Global Tax on Fossil Fuel Needed

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Bergen Woods on Monday. 1 Reply

Ralph Regenvanu and Avinash Persaud make perfect sense, arguing that current climate risk insurance policy practices are immoral.It's time for those who caused…Continue

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The French method of resistance

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Tom Sarbeck Nov 25. 3 Replies


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Comment by Joan Denoo on December 5, 2018 at 10:42pm

@Chris, in the atrocious work environment, it is a wonder you got any work done. Did you have no policy against such behavior? Was there a supervisor who could have intervened? It sounds like the people you worked with were sex-obsessed and either felt guilty of their thoughts, or they were proud of being privileged in matters of sexuality. Either way, they needed psychiatric help or charged with failing to work at their jobs and fired. 

Comment by Donald L. Engel on December 5, 2018 at 10:08pm

@Chris.  By worrying about the number of life boats, and trolley precautions, you are missing the point of the "moral dilemma".  
What I was trying to point out is that the moral thing to do is the act that does the least amount of harm.

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 5, 2018 at 5:38pm

@ Chris, Bill Clinton passed NAFTA and it turned out to be a death-knell for farmers in Mexico. He is largely responsible for the turmoil that followed.  

1. U.S. Jobs Lost.

2. U.S. Wages Suppressed.

3. Mexico's Farmers Put Out of Business.

4. Maquiladora Workers Exploited.

5. Mexico's Environment Deteriorated.

6. NAFTA Called for Free U.S. Access for Mexican Trucks.

~ Six Problems With NAFTA: NAFTA's 6 Negative Effects.


Comment by Donald L. Engel on December 5, 2018 at 5:33pm

@Joan Denoo, The Catholic Church.

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 5, 2018 at 4:26pm

@Tom Sarbeck, I like your suggestion, Tom, of a Table of Contents. Also, I have personally struggled with the notion of euthanizing profoundly malformed babies, especially the brain malformations. I am open to debate on this matter. I further support your idea of "adding the names and contact info for pro-choice organizations whose staff and members have done so much and are doing so much."

I remember, with horror, the stories of women of my mother's generation and mine, of illegal abortions and attempted self-abortions.

I personally witnessed the death of my Mexican maid who used a dirty stick in an attempted abortion. She died a tragic death leaving a large family of small children. As I stood over her body, her husband and her priest on one side of me and her children across from her body. Her pre-teen son on my right kept saying, "Bitch! Bitch! Bitch!" Her priest denied her the use of contraceptive I provided her, her husband beat her and threw the bottle of pills in the open sewer that ran in front of her home, then raped her. He continued to rape her until she became pregnant. Her son, husband, and a priest accused this woman of sin, even as she struggled to support her family by cleaning the homes of officers at William Beaumont Army Medical Center in El Paso, TX. She lived in Ciudad Juárez in a dirt floor, tin roof, shack with no running water and no power. She walked to a public bus, crossed the border with her Green Card, rode another bus to the top of Franklin Mountain where we lived in officer's quarters. She cleaned our home, cooked, and cared for our three small children. All this for $2.00 per day. I raised her pay to $10.00 and my husband was called into the commanding general's office and told we were to pay the required $2.00. I refused to follow his orders and Don was reprimanded. 

What options did this woman have? Who cared about her health and welfare? Who stood in judgment of her? How will she be remembered by her children? Who were the immoral ones here? 

Comment by Joseph P on December 5, 2018 at 4:15pm


The fact is most places are purple.

... and Gerrymandered all to hell and back.

I don't know that I would say 'most', but probably close to half of states are somewhere around purple.  There are many more red states than blue, but the red states are mostly the ones with much lower populations.

lt also depends upon what you mean by 'place'.  Very, very few large cities are purple.  Most are very blue.

Most very small towns are very red.  It's only when you start drawing lines around huge areas that everything turns purple.

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 5, 2018 at 3:36pm

@ Tom Sarbeck, I value your feedback, Tom, especially your idea of a Table of Contents of Donald's comments and saving a copy; you provide a refreshing and insightful perspective to Donald's pieces. 

As to universal health care, the human gene pool may be upgraded; if every child born is a wanted and welcomed child there may be fewer dysfunctional individuals and families and society may benefit. 

Attempts to keep the gene pool population northern European white denies the value of people of other nations,  races, and classes. It supports the delusion that whites are superior to people of "color."  Northern Europeans may have initiated the struggle for a free society with a government for and by the people, populations of other races contributed mightily to the growth and development of our nation.

We don't need schools segregated according to nationality, race, or class, we need informed citizens who know how to think critically. An uninformed person of English descent can make as bad decisions as an uninformed person of Spanish descent. 

We have to face the reality that our present school system serves up propaganda based on political bias. We need education reform based on the basics of reading, writings, mathematics, and critical thinking. We don't need propaganda that passes on national, racial, and class bias. 

Comment by Chris on December 5, 2018 at 3:26pm

I understand that some Aboriginal American indigiousnous people didn't view people as sexual binary.

I read an excerpt written by a Europen Captian of a ship (don't remember, but may have been an English Captian - though could have been French, or Spanish Captian)

In any event the ships log said something to the effect that as they were sailing up the East Coast of the US  it was noticed the  locals were treating the children like people.   Where as in English  (European) culture) children were treated like slaves.  

Sorry I"m too lazy to find the reference- It's doubtfull I saved the reference on my computer - though I know I've written about it preveoulsly with references.

I think it may have been written by a Canadian University professor who also wrote about they myth of the 'First Thanksgiving."

Comment by Chris on December 5, 2018 at 3:08pm

Thanks Donald L. Engel,  for yor your  information about the origin abot the illegality of abortion.   I've found that many think it's always been illegal.

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 5, 2018 at 3:01pm

@Donald L. Engel, thank you for the excellent articles and referrals on morals and abortion. You certainly did your research and wrote powerful comments. 




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