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Politics, Economics, and Religion

Religion has so many connections to political and economic beliefs, there needs to be a place to identify linkages, problems, goals, options, action plans and evaluation criteria.  

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What is the purpose of life?

An eternal question, what is the purpose of life?, occupied philosophers’ thoughts throughout history. Stone pictographs reveal even primitive peoples reflected on this query. Each one has the capacity to define his or her personal thinking about politics, economics and religion.

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wellRED : From Dixie With Love with Trae Crowder

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo 10 hours ago. 2 Replies

For a little old 81 year-old Victorian raised lady this guy knocked off my socks!  Take a minute and watch a man take on the Southern Bigots. Thanks to Chris for the site! wellRED…Continue

Tags: challenge, redneck, bigots, Dixie, wellRED:

Free and open internet in our future?

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat 19 hours ago. 2 Replies

From today's email from Demand Progress (minus "send us money!"; ellipses, emphases, notes, footnote expansions, picture additions mine):---…Continue

Tags: Title II, free and open internet, common carrier, regulations, protection

Hedge Funds Triumph and You Lose

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Nov 24. 2 Replies

image sourceThousands of  profitable…Continue

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Pastor cautions Christian women about those Trump-loving men of the Christian Right—and he nails it

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Grinning Cat Nov 20. 3 Replies

We all know there are predatory men and women and I am not denying it.What is the rate of men and women rapes? Sadly, rape is grossly under-reported, especially men who are raped. 1 in 5 women and 1 in 71 men in the United States has been raped in…Continue

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Comment by Joan Denoo 8 hours ago

At least $2 billion in stolen wages was recovered for workers in 20...

"The findings come from an EPI survey of state labor departments and attorneys general, and data from the U.S. Department of Labor (DOL), along with a report on private, civil litigation class action settlements. Wage theft can take many forms, including: minimum wage violations, overtime violations, tipped minimum violations, and employee misclassification."

I wonder if anyone held Trump accountable for his wage-thefts? 

Comment by tom sarbeck 9 hours ago

Joan, you say neither innocence nor naivity serve a purpose. What is your evidence?
Some of my words or actions elicit innocent or naive responses. If I have any empathy I will not say or do things that elicit more of the same. They therefore do, or can, serve that purpose.


You say idealism and cynicism generate feelings of helplessness. Again, what is your evidence?
In Arizona, my repeated bouts with idealism and cynicism made me aware of my feelings of powerlessness. Those bouts did not cause my feelings of powerlessness.
The cause, when I was a child, was my dad’s physical violence — pain — and my not wanting more such pain silenced me. Silent, I did not produre the results I wanted. Not producing wanted results is the definition of powerlessness.


As for the possibilities you describe, we can probably agree that our reach’s exceeding our grasp is a good thing.

Comment by Joan Denoo 11 hours ago

How is that for having a vision worthy of my efforts to Inform and Resist?

Comment by Joan Denoo 11 hours ago

Tom, neither innocence nor naivety serve a purpose, not do idealism and cynicism. They merely generate feelings of helplessness. On the other hand, the three Ps: Probabilities, Possibilities, and Preferabilities offer a process to analyze a situation. 
Given that I disagree with Trump on just about every policy and practice he has put into place, what is the Probability he will think differently? Zero! Zilch! Nada!
Given that Trump will Probably not think the way I do, what is the Possibility I can imagine a Preferred future? High! Superior! Absolute!
OK! Where to start? Start with me; understand my underlying values.
At the Expo '74 World's Fair with an environmental theme, it revealed the impact of a growing population, fewer working hours to maintain and perpetuate a high living standard for all with more people working fewer hours. Instead of an eight-hour day, they could accomplish the work in four-hours and earn a full day's pay. There would be technical advances to replace human effort; robots would do many tedious tasks, computers would design better and faster than humans.
Workers could accomplish more in fewer hours and have more time for leisure activities. Imagination and creativity would blossom in such conditions. Workers could earn a living wage working fewer hours. The Middle Class could grow in number, imagine more, produce more, create more, and raise the standard of living for all. This new social structure could eliminate poverty.

With the world population is 7.6 billion as of December 2017, there are more workers than are needed to accomplish the same work as in 1974. 

Wages have not gone up since 1975. The stagnation of wages creates a stagnant economy. People do not have money to pay for a middle class living style. The syphoning off of money to the One Percent kills the economy. 

Workers produced much more, but typical workers’ pay lagged far behind. Disconnect between productivity and typical worker’s compensation, 1948–2013Workers produced much more, but typical workers’ pay lagged far behind: Disconnect between productivity and typical worker’s compensation, 1948–2013

Note: Data are for compensation (wages and benefits) of production/nonsupervisory workers in the private sector and net productivity of the total economy. "Net productivity" is the growth of output of goods and services less depreciation per hour worked.

Source: EPI analysis of Bureau of Labor Statistics and Bureau of Economic Analysis data

Updated from Figure A in Raising America’s Pay: Why It’s Our Central Economic Policy Challenge

Comment by tom sarbeck 12 hours ago

Joan, my political awakening took place in Arizona when I saw the sociopathy of the state’s political leaders. They knew they were doing wrong and continued doing it.

My idealism didn’t end in minutes. Swinging like a pendulum, it alternated between idealism and cynicism — not the philosophical kind of cynicism — until in time I saw both idealism and cynicism as results of feeling political powerless. That was when I started seeing realism as a result of feeling politically powerful.

In short, Arizona politics ended my innocence, or naivity.

The probability of Trump’s impeachment or removal?

Be active, and patient. The end times are not yet here.

Comment by Joan Denoo 17 hours ago

Forget that Trump said: 

""The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive."

"This very expensive GLOBAL WARMING bullshit has got to stop. Our planet is freezing, record low temps,and our GW scientists are stuck in ice."

"NBC News just called it the great freeze - coldest weather in years. Is our country still spending money on the GLOBAL WARMING HOAX?"

"Snowing in Texas and Louisiana, record setting freezing temperatures throughout the country and beyond. Global warming is an expensive hoax!"

"Ice storm rolls from Texas to Tennessee - I'm in Los Angeles and it's freezing. Global warming is a total, and very expensive, hoax!"

"I believe in clean air. Immaculate air.... But I don't believe in climate change."

"Well, I think the climate change is just a very, very expensive form of tax. A lot of people are making a lot of money. I know much about climate change. I'd be—received environmental awards. And I often joke that this is done for the benefit of China. Obviously, I joke. But this is done for the benefit of China, because China does not do anything to help climate change. They burn everything you could burn; they couldn't care less. They have very—you know, their standards are nothing. But they—in the meantime, they can undercut us on price. So it's very hard on our business."

"Obama's talking about all of this with the global warming and...a lot of it's a hoax. It's a hoax. I mean, it's a money-making industry, OK? It's a hoax, a lot of it."

For citations, see

WHAT HAS TRUMP SAID ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING? EIGHT QUOTES ON CLIMATE C...

Comment by Grinning Cat 17 hours ago

Array of sixteen red 'Make America Great Again' style caps, saying: FORGET I SAID MEXICO PAYS / FORGET I SAID REPEAL REPLACE / FORGET I SAID TAXES RELEASED / FORGET I SAID 1ST 100 DAYS / FORGET I SAID CHINA IS BAD / FORGET I SAID NO ON SYRIA / FORGET I SAID NATO OBSOLETE / FORGET I SAID LEAVE NAFTA / FORGET I SAID DRAINING SWAMP / FORGET I LOVE WIKILEAKS / FORGET GOLDMAN SACHS IS BAD / FORGET I SAID LOCK HER UP / FORGET I SAID IT IS EASY / FORGET I SAID THE BEST DEALS / FORGET I SAID MUCH LESS GOLF / FORGET I SAID TOO MUCH WIN

Comment by Joan Denoo 19 hours ago

Oh! I fervantly hope Keith is correct, that impeachment of Trump occurs, and very soon!.

Tom, what is the probability that this will happen? 

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Wowza, y'all been busy! Cheers

 
 
 

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