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Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Thomas Murray Mar 15.
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“Sitting at our back doorsteps, all we need to live a good life lies about us. Sun, wind, people, buildings, stones, sea, birds and plants surround us. Cooperation with all these things brings harmony, opposition to them brings disaster and chaos.” ― Bill Mollison, Introduction to Permaculture
To counter this obsession about God and faith and belief, I offer an alternative:
“The plants we've chosen will collect and cycle Earth's minerals, water, and air; shade the soil and renew it with leafy mulch; and yield fruits and greens for people and wildlife.” ― Toby Hemenway, Gaia's Garden: A Guide to Home-scale Permaculture
Loren, I looked up those three biblical references and they are grotesquely obscene, beyond anything civilized. If this so-called god loves, it surely hates more.
"Border on the obscene?!?" All you have to do is cite Psalm 137:9 or Judges 19:22-30 or Ezekiel 23:20 to pretty much obliterate that border!
. . . as a guide for understanding the world, the Bible is pathetically inconsistent and outdated. And one might legitimately argue that as a guide for human behavior large swaths of it border on the obscene.
Mark Twain, from his Autobiography:
There is one notable thing about our Christianity: bad, bloody, merciless, money-grabbing, and predatory as it is – in our country particularly and in all other Christian countries in a somewhat modified degree – it is still a hundred times better than the Christianity of the Bible, with its prodigious crime – the invention of Hell. Measured by our Christianity of to-day, bad as it is, hypocritical as it is, empty and hollow as it is, neither the Deity nor his Son is a Christian, nor qualified for that moderately high place. Ours is a terrible religion. The fleets of the world could swim in spacious comfort in the innocent blood it has spilled."
A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on. -- Winston Churchill Clearly a fact of life which, if he doesn't fully appreciate it, 45 pretty clearly employs anyway.
If we long for our planet to be important, there is something we can do about it. We make our world significant by the courage of our questions and the depth of our answers.-- Carl Sagan, “Cosmos”
If the soup had been as warm as the wine, and the wine as old as the fish, and the fish as young as the maid, and the maid as willing as the hostess, it would have been a very good meal.--Anonymous
Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.
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