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Many religions now come before us with ingratiating smirks and outspread hands, like an unctuous merchant in a bazaar. They offer consolation and solidarity and uplift, competing as they do in a marketplace. But we have a right to remember how barbarically they behaved when they were strong and were making an offer that people could not refuse.― Christopher HitchensIt has been observed many times that religion is benign and tolerant and interested in minority rights when it itself is in the minority, without power or influence. Once in the majority and empowered to act, minority rights and in particular the right to free speech and dissent go out the window. Islam is an especial offender in this regard, and all you have to do is look at Saudi Arabia or Pakistan for examples.
I have liked that Asimov quote for a long time, Gary. It is representative of the Dunning-Kruger effect, which may be a greater problem in the here and now than it has ever been before.
Those quotes also made me think of this one from Asimov:
Nice, Joan. One of The Hitch's close drinking pals had this to say:
A poet's work is to name the unnameable, to point at frauds, to take sides, start arguments, shape the world, and stop it going to sleep.
Bertold, it seems the artists, painter, writer, poet, comedian, musician, can touch people's consciousness in ways that reasoning cannot.
“there is an old quarrel between philosophy and poetry”
~ Plato, Republic, 607b5–6).
"Reason is the enumeration of qualities already known; imagination is the perception of the value of those qualities, both separately and as a whole. Reason respects the differences, and imagination the similitudes of things. Reason is to imagination as the instrument to the agent, as the body to the spirit, as the shadow to the substance."
~ Percy Bysshe Shelley, A Defence of Poetry, English Essays: Sidney to Macaulay. The Harvard Classics. 1909–14.
An important pair, from where I sit:I don't accept the currently fashionable assertion that any view is automatically as worthy of respect as any equal and opposite view.-- Scott AdamsI've searched my conscience, and I can't for the life of me find any justification for this, and I simply cannot accept that there are on every story two equal and logical sides to an argument.-- Edward R. Murrow
Joan-- Here's the actual song. Misty is a genius and his album is a dark wonder.
Bertold, WOW! He doesn't hold back on his statement! Here are his other words of the song, "Pure Comedy":
"Where did they find these goons they elected to rule them?
What makes these clowns they idolize so remarkable?
These mammals are hell-bent on fashioning new gods
So they can go on being godless animals
Oh comedy, their illusions they have no choice but to believe
Their horizons that just forever recede
And how's this for irony, their idea of being free is a prison of beliefs
That they never ever have to leave
Oh comedy, oh it's like something that a madman would conceive!
The only thing that seems to make them feel alive is the struggle to survive
But the only thing that they request is something to numb the pain with
Until there's nothing human left
Just random matter suspended in the dark
I hate to say it, but each other's all we got"
~ Father John Misty, Pure Comedy, Lyrics,
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