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they will lead us triumphantly back ...
Over my dead body, Bertold ... and I'll take as many with me as I can.
. . . --in the dreary hours
you read about The Age of Faith,
when godly ones bowed to a holy
ghost, told their beads to a blessed mother,
and ripped off the screaming fingernails
of unbelievers; when priests, inspired
by the Pope's own personal blessing
tore off nipples with red-hot tongs;
when monks thumbed out the eyeballs
of heretics and saints, and seared their flesh
to purify their souls.
. . . when the high wall between priest
and politics is wrecked by frenzied mobs
then the godly ones will lead us again--
our ears sliced off,
our tongues cut through,
our foreheads branded--
they will lead us triumphantly back,
back through our hazy memories,
to burn again in an Age of Faith.
When loss and gain are the same, that is real gain.
Joan, there's no need for apology.
It would be sad if we weren't able to post ideas to a forum and have an open discussion.
I'm not familiar with Chris Hedges, but I agree with him 100% about the other four pillars.
Loren, judging from our fellow citizen's behavioral history, I seriously doubt a long-lasting, meaningful lesson will be learned from this Trump episode, especially with the increasing cult of willful ignorance taking hold across this country. It's frightening.
No country can be both ignorant and free.-- Thomas JeffersonThis one scares me to death, between the dumbing down of American education and the Orange Nightmare currently being the spokesperson for the Dunning-Kruger Effect, I genuinely worry about a nation which cannot be bothered to sufficiently inform itself to avoid such transparent hucksters.We may learn from Trump. The problem is that we will very likely learn the hard way.
"All children are atheists, and were religion not inculcated into their minds, they would remain so."
~ Ernestine Rose
In Women Without Superstition: "No Gods - No Masters," The Collected Writings of Women Freethinkers of the Nineteenth and Twentieth Centuries.
Thanks, Carl, for challenging me on my Hedges quote. He is the strongest religious opponent to organized religion and churches, in my opinion, and finds them purveyors of superstition while maintaining a money stream.
Christopher Hitchens called Hedges out on his religiosity in a way that only Hitchens can or could do.
Christopher Hitchens Leaves Chris Hedges Speechless
Sam Harris took a pretty good swipe at Hedges. too.
Dear Angry Lunatic: A Response to Chris Hedges
I agree with you! I was wrong in including Hedges' quote.
The four thinkers, Hitchens and Harris, plus Dawkins and Dennett, the writers known as The Four Horsemen, advocate that irrationalism, religion, and superstition require challenging when they intrude upon education, government, and politics. I also agree with The Four Horse about not indoctrinating children in superstition.
My humble apology to my readers for including this Hedges' quote in my list.
I like the Einstein and will also say R'Amen.
Amen from me too, Carl & BB.
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