Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

Discussion Forum

Sam Harris on Morality and the Christian God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller on Thursday. 2 Replies

The debate between Sam Harris and William Lane Craig at Notre Dame in 2011 was particularly notable for one particular rebuttal by Harris to Craig, well into the debate.  Those 10 or so minutes…Continue

Big Bang vs Electric Universe, Lawrence Krauss' response

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller on Wednesday. 2 Replies

I wrote to Lawrence Krauss during the discussion of Big Bang vs Electric Universe:"Thurs, 5:54 PM, Lawrence, I belong to Atheist Nexus and a rather ugly debate began about the Big Bang Theory. One…Continue

The Oneida Perfectionists

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller May 17. 4 Replies

The Oneida Perfectionists had a vision of utopian life, and they structured their communities according to ideological similarities.1. First, it believed that its members had entered into an…Continue

Tags: communist, authoritarian, leadership, utopia, free-love

Christianity Founded by a Murderer

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Alan Perlman Apr 21. 4 Replies

Constantine did what?As he gained power, he became more suspicious of even family and friends. He ordered them to be put to death by various means.MaximianHis father-in-lawHe impelled to hang…Continue

Tags: baptized, escape, guilt, be, repent

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Comment by Compelledunbeliever on October 6, 2017 at 4:44am

I don't know that these are sagely but I've found myself repeating these two things often lately.

There is more religion attributed to the bible than is actually in the bible.

Any religion that does not have a God that actually exist requires faith to believe in said God. What does your religion require?

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 5, 2017 at 11:24pm

“A standing military force… will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defense against foreign danger have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.”

~ James Madison, Philadelphia Constitutional Convention in 1787.

 

Comment by Loren Miller on October 5, 2017 at 6:25am

Bertold, that whole "fear of death" business reminds me of the following:

Man is so built that he cannot imagine his own death.  This leads to endless invention of religions.
-- Robert A. Heinlein, Stranger in a Strange Land

As for "fear of life," the second you erect a god in authority over you, that fear comes along, especially fear of displeasing said god or violating its commandments.  You've traded one fear for another!

Comment by Gary S on October 4, 2017 at 8:50pm

I have also liked that one Bertold.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on October 4, 2017 at 8:27pm

I wish we had more people like Mencken around these days! Here's another crack of his I've always liked:

Men always try to make virtues of their weaknesses. Fear of death and fear of life both become piety.

Comment by Gary S on October 4, 2017 at 8:04pm

Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration – courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and, above all, love of the truth.

- Henry Louis Mencken

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 4, 2017 at 6:04pm

Bertold, I have not read material by Flemming Rose. Reading the story that goes with your quote, he is a writer I intend to pursue.  

"When Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten published the cartoons of the prophet Mohammed five years ago, Denmark found itself at the center of a global battle about the freedom of speech.
The paper’s culture editor Flemming Rose defended the decision to print the 12 drawings while the world went up in flames, and quickly he came to play a central part in the debate about the limitations to freedom of speech in the 21st century."

 Flemming RoseThe Tyranny of Silence

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 4, 2017 at 4:20pm

"Upon the subject of education, ... I can only say that I view it as the most important subject which we as a people can be engaged in."

~ Abraham Lincoln

Abraham Lincoln - March 9 1832 - Abraham Lincoln Online - http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.com/

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 4, 2017 at 11:12am
"I'd rather have roses on my table than diamonds on my neck.
If I can't dance, I don't want to be part of your revolution.
The most violent element in society is ignorance."
~ Emma Goldman 
 
Comment by Loren Miller on October 4, 2017 at 8:30am

Wonderfully well put there, Bertold, and utterly on point.  They want us to conform to them ... and we ain't havin' any!

 

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