Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

Discussion Forum

Roy Moore Is Exactly What the Republican Party Is All About

Started by Joan Denoo on Sunday. 0 Replies

"The religious right was not born out of opposition to Roe v. Wade. It was born out of opposition to Brown v. Board."~ …Continue

Tags: Roe, right, v., Wade, Board

Air Force Academy leader delivers powerful speech on race after slurs found in dorms (CBS News)

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by tom sarbeck Nov 2. 5 Replies

AIR FORCE ACADEMY, Colo. -- The leader of the Air Force Academy delivered a poignant and stern message on race relations in a speech to thousands of cadets after someone wrote racial slurs on message…Continue

Tags: Silveria, Jay, Gen., , Air, Force, Academy", racism

Would you like your old "Quotation of the Day" quotes republished?

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Grinning Cat Oct 12. 11 Replies

I saved the comments from the previous quotations group the day before it was cleared and closed. Its creator feels strongly that people's comments (though they were posted publicly) shouldn't be…Continue

Tags: archived, opt in, opt-in, archive, republished

Dan Rather on Alternative Facts

Started by Loren Miller Sep 26. 0 Replies

I originally submitted this piece to Daniel W.'s group, "Quotation of the Day," some months ago.  I thought it was important enough to repost here.  Please enjoy.…Continue

Tags: Donald Trump, Kellyanne Conway, alternative facts, Dan Rather

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Comment by Joan Denoo on October 22, 2017 at 3:27am

Loren, you wrote, "personal knowledge" only has utility to the extent that it is applicable outside of one's own self.  Wasn't it David Hume who said that to everyone else, a personal revelation is hearsay?
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Read the tragic story The Doctor Who Championed Hand-Washing And Briefly Saved Lives

Also read Oliver Wendell Holmes (1809–1894) and Ignaz Philipp Semmelweis (181...

You will quickly realize how two men, working at different times and in different places, noticed an unusual incidence of women dying in hospitals, treated by doctors. Dr. Oliver Wendell Holmes saw that there were far fewer deaths of women after childbirth when managed by midwives. Both men noticed, in different places and at different times, doctors often returned from autopsies of women who died in childbirth. Semmelweis and Holmes thought about what they each, individually, witnessed and formed notions of what could be causing the deaths. Dr. Semmelweis theorized that midwives had women lay on their sides and doctors had women lay on their backs. He instructed the doctors to have their women lay on their sides; he found the position of the delivery did not improve the mortality numbers. He also theorized a priest coming to ring bells at the birth of a baby caused the deaths and he stopped the priest. The deaths continued.

Poor Dr. Semmelweis went goofy, he knew the answer and no one listened. He was declared insane and died as a result of a beating in an insane asylum. 

Dr. Holmes's literary and poetic works grew in importance. "Even his own profession came to value him more as a professor and poet than as a fearless and outspoken defender of the life and health of childbearing women."

"Thanks to the work of Holmes and Semmelweis, the gradual acceptance of sterile procedures, and to a variety of other factors such as improved environmental conditions, better overall obstetrical care, and the availability of antibiotics, the puerperal fever has become rare in developed countries. In time, with sufficient organization, political will, and dedication, maternal mortality will be very rare in all parts of the world." 

I understand your point, Loren.

"The reason hearsay is not generally permissible in a court of law is because it is not helpful in finding the truth, and may even impede the search for truth."

"...all of the foundational stories of Christianity are hearsay and that all religious claims should be subjected to the test of evidence since failure to recognize hearsay can be dangerous to your common sense."

"The author of John (and most biblical scholars claim it was not the John who appears in the bible) admits that he is writing to convince others, that he has a specific agenda, that he is biased. Since John offers no claims that can be actually verified, how is his testimony any different from John Doe’s hearsay testimony in the case of John Smith? How is it any different from a “They say . . .” type claim?"

~WizenedSage (Galen Rose)

The examples I offer about two doctors coming to conclusions about doctors causing the deaths of women in childbirth has nothing to do with hearsay. These men observed, reported what they found, and were discounted, put down, trivialized, demonized because of their reports, their observations, their testing. 

Comment by Loren Miller on October 21, 2017 at 9:54pm

Joan, "personal knowledge" only has utility to the extent that it is applicable outside of one's own self.  Wasn't it David Hume who said that to everyone else, a personal revelation is hearsay?

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 21, 2017 at 8:03pm

Thomas, you wrote, "Isn't 'personal experience' part of acquiring knowledge too?"

The way I interpret the quote is that I, personally, see what happens, not buy into what another says is happening. 

I reflect on what I observe, making sure not to create more than what is there, or denying what I see. 

I experiment to test my hypothesis of what I see and what I think about it. 

This process of "knowing" is deeply personal. When shared with others who observe the same situation, I may learn to see what I had failed to see, or I can confirm or reject my observation depending on taking another look and making decisions in favor or reject it. I could be wrong in my observations or correct. So can those who perceive the situation differently than I. 

Bias can get into the process and, hopefully, with honed observation skills, fine-tuned assertion skills, and comprehensive listening skills, each member could contribute to a solution that fits the needs of the people. 

Comment by Loren Miller on October 21, 2017 at 6:46pm

The difference, Thomas, is that I suspect ol' Dino was willing to LEARN from his mistakes.  The orange nightmare?  Not so much.

Comment by Thomas Murray on October 21, 2017 at 5:19pm

But...but Carl.....why then is Trump such a continuing lacking good judgments? Seems like he easily demolished your quote.

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 21, 2017 at 5:03pm

I gave-up on the Spock-Fonsie quiz because I didn't know any of them.  I was just guessing based on their personalities.  Before I quit, I was getting about 60%.

Comment by Loren Miller on October 21, 2017 at 4:45pm
Carl, I managed 13 out of 14! I may not know what Fonsie said very much, but I know Spock pretty damned well!
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on October 21, 2017 at 4:12pm

I love that one, Carl. (And Dino's the perfect exemplar.)

Comment by The Flying Atheist on October 21, 2017 at 3:52pm

Thomas, perhaps this will help answer your question.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on October 21, 2017 at 3:46pm

Loren, you frequently quote "Star Trek" characters here, so I thought you might appreciate this quiz.  (I didn't fare too well.)

WHO SAID IT: SPOCK OR FONZIE?

http://metv.com/quiz/who-said-it-spock-or-fonzie

 

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