Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

Discussion Forum

Sam Harris on Morality and the Christian God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller on Thursday. 2 Replies

The debate between Sam Harris and William Lane Craig at Notre Dame in 2011 was particularly notable for one particular rebuttal by Harris to Craig, well into the debate.  Those 10 or so minutes…Continue

Big Bang vs Electric Universe, Lawrence Krauss' response

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller on Wednesday. 2 Replies

I wrote to Lawrence Krauss during the discussion of Big Bang vs Electric Universe:"Thurs, 5:54 PM, Lawrence, I belong to Atheist Nexus and a rather ugly debate began about the Big Bang Theory. One…Continue

The Oneida Perfectionists

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller May 17. 4 Replies

The Oneida Perfectionists had a vision of utopian life, and they structured their communities according to ideological similarities.1. First, it believed that its members had entered into an…Continue

Tags: communist, authoritarian, leadership, utopia, free-love

Christianity Founded by a Murderer

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Alan Perlman Apr 21. 4 Replies

Constantine did what?As he gained power, he became more suspicious of even family and friends. He ordered them to be put to death by various means.MaximianHis father-in-lawHe impelled to hang…Continue

Tags: baptized, escape, guilt, be, repent

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Comment by Loren Miller on December 10, 2017 at 4:54pm

A powerful and cogent point, Bertold. What a shame nobody these days can be bothered to hear such things ... or almost no one.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on December 10, 2017 at 4:51pm

A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.


Marcus Tullius Cicero

Comment by Idaho Spud on December 10, 2017 at 10:51am

I agree Loren.  jesus is NOT a god of love.

Comment by Loren Miller on December 10, 2017 at 9:53am

Just keep asking yourself: What would Jesus not do?
― Chuck Palahniuk

Point taken, Chuck. It would seem as though Jesus would threaten us with death for not letting him rule over us (Luke 19:27), never mind dismiss us after that into a lake of fire (Matthew 25:46) for having the unmitigated nerve not to believe in him on bad evidence. I haven't even talked about his cursing a fig tree for not producing fruit out of season or going after the buyers and sellers in the temple with a whip.

And this is the representative of a god of love? IN A PIG'S EYE!!!

Comment by Loren Miller on December 9, 2017 at 7:57am

The first casualty of learning is IGNORANCE.  If theists truly wanted to learn, then theism would become such a casualty.
-- me

Overall, I suspect that ignorance, whether inadvertent or purposeful, is the single biggest foe we have to fight against. This holds true in any discussion about unearned privilege: social, religious, political, or corporate.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on December 8, 2017 at 5:47pm

It is in the region of ignorance that tyranny begins.

--Benjamin Franklin

Comment by Loren Miller on December 8, 2017 at 6:45am

Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination.
-- Thomas Jefferson

I find this quote remarkable, in that 200+ years ago when our Constitution was being formulated, the founders recognized religious diversity as an issue and very purposefully dealt with it. Now in some places, religious diversity is a curiosity or a no-op, and allowances for it are treated as optional. Yet another case of people not knowing (or caring) about their history.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on December 7, 2017 at 11:39am

Hamlet’s a dull fuck of a story where a fellow stands around lamenting how useless he is even to his own self, and then there’s a pansy swordfight and it’s over.

--Neal Stephenson & Nicole Galland

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on December 7, 2017 at 11:34am

“Confirmation bias” has mutated from a hazard of academic research to a menacing political and social phenomenon.

--Mitch Daniels

Comment by Loren Miller on December 7, 2017 at 5:40am

I do not fear death. I'd been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience.
--Mark Twain

And if those billions of years went unnoticed in your consciousness, why should billions or trillions more after your physiology fails be of any concern? [grin!] An oft-noted and poignant quote from Mr. Clemons. I wonder if he and Ingersoll ever met...

 

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