Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

Discussion Forum

Sam Harris on Morality and the Christian God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller 4 hours ago. 2 Replies

The debate between Sam Harris and William Lane Craig at Notre Dame in 2011 was particularly notable for one particular rebuttal by Harris to Craig, well into the debate.  Those 10 or so minutes…Continue

Big Bang vs Electric Universe, Lawrence Krauss' response

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller yesterday. 2 Replies

I wrote to Lawrence Krauss during the discussion of Big Bang vs Electric Universe:"Thurs, 5:54 PM, Lawrence, I belong to Atheist Nexus and a rather ugly debate began about the Big Bang Theory. One…Continue

The Oneida Perfectionists

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller May 17. 4 Replies

The Oneida Perfectionists had a vision of utopian life, and they structured their communities according to ideological similarities.1. First, it believed that its members had entered into an…Continue

Tags: communist, authoritarian, leadership, utopia, free-love

Christianity Founded by a Murderer

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Alan Perlman Apr 21. 4 Replies

Constantine did what?As he gained power, he became more suspicious of even family and friends. He ordered them to be put to death by various means.MaximianHis father-in-lawHe impelled to hang…Continue

Tags: baptized, escape, guilt, be, repent

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Comment by Loren Miller on December 18, 2017 at 6:27am

The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew, and act anew. We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country.
-- Abraham Lincoln

I submit that any dogma, doctrine, or dictum which does not change as new things are learned is not only useless, it is potentially worse than useless, because of its inability or unwillingness to adapt to novel situations. This is precisely what Lincoln was expressing here, and it is amazing to me how people will continue to cling to their holy books, as though they have the answer to everything, when their answers are too often pat pablum which answer nothing and solve nothing.

Comment by Chris on December 17, 2017 at 9:24pm

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Comment by Chris on December 17, 2017 at 9:14pm

Some may find FAIR a href="https://fair.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://fair.org/ >

Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting interesting.

There is alsoMedia Matters.  a href="https://www.mediamatters.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.mediamatters.org/ >,

or your local commedy TV show.

Most commercial news - be it print, or press is about

Manufacturing Consent.   and selling advertizing space.

I used to subscribe to weeklys such as Time, and U.S. News and World Report until they started covering sensationalism such as  Nancy Kerrigan/Tonya Harding, and the OJ Simpson trial.   Looking at that didn't appear any different than entertainment.

Why aren't  Investigative reporters given enough room for their pieces on TV news or dailies?.   Short attention span of the viewers and readers?

Thankjfully there are libraries and other public avenues for discemenating information.

Comment by Patricia on December 17, 2017 at 1:22pm

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Comment by Patricia on December 17, 2017 at 1:22pm

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Comment by Patricia on December 17, 2017 at 1:17pm

Always strings attached, no matter the script.

Comment by Loren Miller on December 17, 2017 at 9:35am

Many religions now come before us with ingratiating smirks and outspread hands, like an unctuous merchant in a bazaar. They offer consolation and solidarity and uplift, competing as they do in a marketplace. But we have a right to remember how barbarically they behaved when they were strong and were making an offer that people could not refuse.
― Christopher Hitchens, god is Not Great

The business of selling pigs in pokes gets harder all the time, because more shoppers want to SEE the merchandise ... and the less there is to see, the less they are likely to buy.

Comment by Loren Miller on December 16, 2017 at 9:35pm

Chris, there are those who have a measure of control over their own lives and those who don't.  For those who don't, whose lives are purely about survival, the Bennett quote is hardly applicable.  For those who do have such control, the question becomes: do they exercise that control and if so, in what direction and why?

Some people think they either are not their brothers' and sisters' keeper but that they shouldn't be burdened with such a responsibility, indeed, ever those who are tasked with it, like, for instance, Senators and House members.  Those capable of choice need to be held accountable for their choices ... particularly so that we can empower those for whom such choice is not available.

Comment by Chris on December 16, 2017 at 8:43pm

Joan all of the things you meantionged and more.

Some things are worth fighting to change, other things aren't.

Tilting at widnmills doesn't work unless one knows something about about the wind driving them.

Comment by Gary S on December 16, 2017 at 6:49pm

No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says: He is always convinced that it says what he means.

- George Bernard Shaw

 

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