Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

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The Oneida Perfectionists

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller on Friday. 4 Replies

The Oneida Perfectionists had a vision of utopian life, and they structured their communities according to ideological similarities.1. First, it believed that its members had entered into an…Continue

Tags: communist, authoritarian, leadership, utopia, free-love

Christianity Founded by a Murderer

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Alan Perlman Apr 21. 4 Replies

Constantine did what?As he gained power, he became more suspicious of even family and friends. He ordered them to be put to death by various means.MaximianHis father-in-lawHe impelled to hang…Continue

Tags: baptized, escape, guilt, be, repent

Basho

Started by Cane Kostovski. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 18. 16 Replies

“Here, where a thousandCaptains swore grand conquest. . .TallGrass their monument.”― BashoWhat does this quote mean to you? To me it portrays deep deep effort that was for nothing. Deep Deep Wasted…Continue

Roy Moore Is Exactly What the Republican Party Is All About

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Cane Kostovski Jan 23. 3 Replies

"The religious right was not born out of opposition to Roe v. Wade. It was born out of opposition to Brown v. Board."~ …Continue

Tags: Roe, right, v., Wade, Board

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Comment by Patricia on January 11, 2018 at 12:41pm

 I don’t make jokes.  I just watch the government and report the facts. – Will Rogers 

Comment by Loren Miller on January 11, 2018 at 5:19am

The above meshes perfectly with another fave quote:

If it takes the threat of hell to make you a moral person, then you are not at all moral, you are just a coward who responds well to threats.
-- Leo Wolf

Behaving well with a gun to your head is no kind of morality I would ever endorse, let alone suggest to another.  Add that to the fact that the events of the bible have a piss-poor basis in historical fact and I have virtually no reason to give them any kind of credence or authority.

Comment by Patricia on January 10, 2018 at 10:18pm

24 | April | 2012 | Always Question Authority

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on January 10, 2018 at 9:30am

By consciously exploring geometric principles, these [XIV – XVI century] painters gradually learned how to construct images of objects in three-dimensional space. In the process, they reprogrammed European minds to see space in a Euclidean fashion.

. . . What is so extraordinary here is that, while philosophers and proto-scientists were cautiously challenging Aristotelian precepts about space, artists cut a radical swathe through this intellectual territory by appealing to the senses. In a very literal fashion, perspectival representation was a form of virtual reality that, like today’s VR games, aimed to give viewers the illusion that they had been transported into geometrically coherent and psychologically convincing other worlds.

--Margaret Wertheim

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on January 10, 2018 at 8:18am

Joan--

In 1963 Gay Talese interviewed FS for Esquire mag. The interview got off to quite a rousing start:

Playboy: All right, let's start with the most basic question there is: Are you a religious man? Do you believe in God?

Sinatra: Well, that'll do for openers. I think I can sum up my religious feelings in a couple of paragraphs. First: I believe in you and me. I'm like Albert Schweitzer and Bertrand Russell and Albert Einstein in that I have a respect for life -- in any form. I believe in nature, in the birds, the sea, the sky, in everything I can see or that there is real evidence for. If these things are what you mean by God, then I believe in God. But I don't believe in a personal God to whom I look for comfort or for a natural on the next roll of the dice. 

It's pretty clear that he was another one of us atheist/pantheists.

Here's the interview.

Comment by Loren Miller on January 10, 2018 at 8:18am

Frank said much the same thing in his Playboy Interview years ago, and I wrote about that a while back.

Comment by Loren Miller on January 10, 2018 at 5:59am

Chris, this group is about QUOTES and discussion about posted quotes.  I would prefer that it stay focused on that topic.  Your last comment is a complete non sequitur, from where I sit and doesn't belong. 

The next such comment will be deleted without notice.

Comment by Loren Miller on January 10, 2018 at 5:21am

It's now very common to hear people say, “I'm rather offended by that.”As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. “I find that offensive.” It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. “I am offended by that.” Well, so fucking what?
-- Stephen Fry

I must have said it 100 times around A|N and elsewhere: No one has the right not to be offended.  Fry gives perfect and succinct expression to why that statement is true in the above quote.  Those who expect the world to conform to them and their desires for no other reason than that they desire it have earned all the disabuse they get.  Indeed, this was a lesson hard-learned by yours truly, but I did finally get it.

One wonders when (or IF) they will.

Comment by Loren Miller on January 10, 2018 at 5:07am

Chris, you said a few comments previously, and I quote:

In biblical texts the mythical Jesus never claimed to be the son of Gowd (sic)

I responded with:

I and my father are one.
-- John 10:30

That is, at minimum, Jesus equating himself with Yahweh, if not explicitly asserting himself as Yahweh's son, at least from where I sit.


Comment by Chris on January 10, 2018 at 4:35am

I and my father are one.
-- John 10:30
Care to try again, Chris?

The Fox and the Grapes


One hot summer's day a Fox was strolling through an orchard
till he came to a bunch of Grapes just ripening on a vine which
had been trained over a lofty branch. "Just the thing to quench
my thirst," quoth he. Drawing back a few paces, he took a run and
a jump, and just missed the bunch. Turning round again with a
One, Two, Three, he jumped up, but with no greater success. Again
and again he tried after the tempting morsel, but at last had to
give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air, saying: "I
am sure they are sour."

 

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