Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

Discussion Forum

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Patricia Jun 2. 2 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

Sam Harris on Morality and the Christian God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller May 24. 2 Replies

The debate between Sam Harris and William Lane Craig at Notre Dame in 2011 was particularly notable for one particular rebuttal by Harris to Craig, well into the debate.  Those 10 or so minutes…Continue

Big Bang vs Electric Universe, Lawrence Krauss' response

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller May 23. 2 Replies

I wrote to Lawrence Krauss during the discussion of Big Bang vs Electric Universe:"Thurs, 5:54 PM, Lawrence, I belong to Atheist Nexus and a rather ugly debate began about the Big Bang Theory. One…Continue

The Oneida Perfectionists

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller May 17. 4 Replies

The Oneida Perfectionists had a vision of utopian life, and they structured their communities according to ideological similarities.1. First, it believed that its members had entered into an…Continue

Tags: communist, authoritarian, leadership, utopia, free-love

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Comment by Patricia on January 23, 2018 at 1:16pm

Yes Joan, that is why we are not close with our daughter. They have their lives, we have ours. The religious topic stays closed between us, at our insistence, & we have found a way to get along when we do see or speak with each other. We don't live near them either, which helps as well.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on January 23, 2018 at 1:06pm

None are as capable of evil as the self-righteous.

--Charles Eisenstein

Comment by Loren Miller on January 23, 2018 at 12:29pm

That is a most excellent quote by Hypatia, Joan, and well evinced by the behavior of some believers in the current day.  In fact, I think that just went into my quote collection!

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 23, 2018 at 12:26pm

Splendid quotes Loren and Bertold, I agree with your statement Spud. 

Hypatia "was one of the last great thinkers of ancient Alexandria and one of the first women to study and teach mathematics, astronomy and philosophy." "A pagan, Hypatia was murdered by a Christian mob known as the Parabalani after being accused of exacerbating a conflict between two prominent figures in Alexandria: the Prefect, Orestes (the Roman governor of the province of Egypt, in 415), and the bishop, Cyril of Alexandria." 

"In fact men will fight for a superstition quite as quickly as for a living truth - often more so, since a superstition is so intangible you cannot get at it to refute it, but truth is a point of view, and so is changeable."

~ Hypatia

Found in No Sacred Cows: Investigating Myths, Cults, and the Supernatural, B...

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 23, 2018 at 11:34am

Patricia, with people I love very much and who impose upon my time and energy with their proselytizing and judgment of me, and who do not respect my desire to be free of those conversations, I consider them as toxic to my mind as arsenic is toxic to my body and I step out of their lives. When they continue to send me their nonsense, I respond with the reasons their positions make no sense to me and give them instructions to not send me their disinformation. After two or three episodes, they usually stop communicating with me, and as with my cousins, they Block me. What I lose is their piffle; what I gain is less irritation for me. 

With a daughter or son, I am not sure what I would do. It depends on how they treat me. If they show respect and consideration of my point of view, I could compartmentalize them in my thinking, avoid problematic topics, and focus on their qualities that I admire. If they show me disrespect and lack of consideration, I could consider them as toxic and avoid them. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 23, 2018 at 10:20am

Good quote, Bertold.  The harm to children usually lasts a lifetime.  Very few of us a able to break-out of the belief in superstitions.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on January 23, 2018 at 7:18am

Comment by Loren Miller on January 23, 2018 at 6:42am

The significance of our lives and our fragile planet is then determined only by our own wisdom and courage. We are the custodians of life's meaning. We long for a Parent to care for us, to forgive us our errors, to save us from our childish mistakes. But knowledge is preferable to ignorance. Better by far to embrace the hard truth than a reassuring fable. If we crave some cosmic purpose, then let us find ourselves a worthy goal.
― Carl Sagan

Getting mankind to forsake those reassuring fables continues to be a challenging task, and laziness gives rise to desires for superimposed purpose rather than one that might be self-determined. That doesn't change the fact that Sagan had it 100% right.

Comment by Loren Miller on January 22, 2018 at 9:20am

I wonder what Peter Boghossian would think of Swift's statement, Bertold!

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on January 22, 2018 at 8:38am

It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.

--Jonathan Swift

 

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