Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

Discussion Forum

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Jul 2. 3 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

Sam Harris on Morality and the Christian God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller May 24. 2 Replies

The debate between Sam Harris and William Lane Craig at Notre Dame in 2011 was particularly notable for one particular rebuttal by Harris to Craig, well into the debate.  Those 10 or so minutes…Continue

Big Bang vs Electric Universe, Lawrence Krauss' response

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller May 23. 2 Replies

I wrote to Lawrence Krauss during the discussion of Big Bang vs Electric Universe:"Thurs, 5:54 PM, Lawrence, I belong to Atheist Nexus and a rather ugly debate began about the Big Bang Theory. One…Continue

The Oneida Perfectionists

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller May 17. 4 Replies

The Oneida Perfectionists had a vision of utopian life, and they structured their communities according to ideological similarities.1. First, it believed that its members had entered into an…Continue

Tags: communist, authoritarian, leadership, utopia, free-love

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Comment by Loren Miller on March 14, 2018 at 5:52am

There is a fundamental difference between religion, which is based on authority, and science, which is based on observation and reason. Science will win because it works.
-- Stephen Hawking

Science will also win because it's willing to correct itself when it finds itself in error, as well as to add to itself when something new arises. And while science may not have authorities, it does have experts and communicators to help make its knottier aspects more accessible to us. For that and so much else, thank you, Stephen. You will be sorely missed.

Comment by Loren Miller on March 13, 2018 at 9:17pm

Joan, if there is one thing humankind has learned how to do over the last 200 thousand years, it is this: defy nature. Indeed, to say to Nature straight in it's face: fuck you.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 13, 2018 at 9:10pm

"nature so wants us dead. Nature is trying to kill us."
― Penn Jillette

Comment by Patricia on March 13, 2018 at 1:15pm

Don't forget....they are gawd's blessings/miracles, unless of course born out of wedlock, then they are bastards....go figure.

Comment by Loren Miller on March 13, 2018 at 6:02am

Nobody that has seen a baby born can believe in god for a second. When you see your child born, and the panic, and the amount of technology that is saving the life of the two people you love most in the world, when you see how much stainless steel and money it takes to fight off the fact that god wants both those people dead, no one, no one can look into the eyes of a newborn baby and say there's a god, because I'll tell ya, if we were squatting in the woods, the two people I love most would be dead. There's just no way around that. If I were in charge, no way. We need technology to fight against nature; nature so wants us dead. Nature is trying to kill us.
― Penn Jillette

So, the universe is fine-tuned for life, eh? I wonder if anyone who has said that has considered the process of pregnancy and the number of obstacles placed between a fertilized ovum and its exit through the birth canal 40 weeks later. Even pregnancy is a gauntlet.

Comment by Loren Miller on March 12, 2018 at 5:22am

I try to imagine another planet, another sun,
Where I don't look like me,
And everything I do matters.
[emphasis mine]
-- Rickie Lee Jones, "Gravity"

I think that's what a lot of us want: to matter to someone else, to be noticed and significant to them. Sadly, there are SOME people out there who don't just overdo it but insist that EVERYONE notice EVERYTHING they do. Anyone here know someone like that?!?

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 11, 2018 at 3:04pm
"Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
To the last syllable of recorded time,
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more.
It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
No Fear Shakespeare Macbeth Act 5, Scene 5, Page 2.
Comment by Patricia on March 11, 2018 at 2:59pm

I've also never understood why medical people, & police, still have religious belief.

Comment by Loren Miller on March 11, 2018 at 2:05pm

That guy seems to believe a whole lot of things, Joan.  Problem is, there's no substance behind his beliefs, but then that's faith for you.  All his statements amount to is a bunch of vacuous blathering that means exactly nothing.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 11, 2018 at 2:00pm

'God Is Not Threatened by Our Scientific Adventures'

http://www.beliefnet.com/news/science-religion/2006/08/god-is-not-t...

What if evidence of all living things descended from a common ancestor can not be reconciled with bible-believing christians?

”The evidence supporting the idea that all living things are descended from a common ancestor is truly overwhelming. I would not necessarily wish that to be so, as a Bible-believing Christian."

What serves faith?

"But it is so. It does not serve faith well to try to deny that."

What if there is no plan to create creatures with whom there is no god to have fellowship?

”I believe that God had a plan to create creatures with whom he could have fellowship, in whom he could inspire [the] moral law, in whom he could infuse the soul, and who he would give free will as a gift for us to make decisions about our own behavior, a gift which we oftentimes utilize to do the wrong thing."

What if a god existed to create a mechanism of evolution to achieve his goals? 

”I believe God used the mechanism of evolution to achieve that goal. And while that may seem to us who are limited by this axis of time as a very long, drawn-out process, it wasn't long and drawn-out to God. And it wasn't random to God."

What if there is no god and there is no plan for how life will turn out?

”[He] had the plan all along of how that would turn out."

How can there be ambiguity if there is no god and no plan?

”There was no ambiguity about that.”

Word Count 287, sorry

 

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