Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

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Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Sep 14. 2 Replies

The word “Permaculture” is the combination of the two words “permanent” and “agriculture.” It is a method of agricultural philosophy that allows gardeners to create and sustain growing food in a way…Continue

Tags: production, shelter, food, permaculture, Mollison

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Sep 10. 5 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

Will McAvoy's Rant: "America Is NOT the World's Greatest Country"

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 25. 3 Replies

Aaron Sorkin has a habit of swinging for the fences when he writes political commentary as entertainment for television.  This was first evinced in the network television series, The West Wing, and…Continue

Tags: The Newsroom, Will McAvoy, Aaron Sorkin

Ingersoll Day August 11th

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius Aug 12. 2 Replies

Robert Green Ingersoll (1833-1899)"When I became convinced that the universe is natural, that all the ghosts and gods are myths, there entered into my brain, into my soul, into every drop of my blood…Continue

Tags: fearless, joyous, freedom, Day, agnostic

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Comment by Loren Miller on March 29, 2018 at 5:41am

Religion isn't adaptive, it's reactive. It's reacting to attacks against its putative authority while attempting to maintain that same authority. Its problem is that, being based in a lie, indeed a series of lies, it truly has no leg to stand on. It has presumed that it had a genuine authority, based in those lies; it's problem is that it is being found out, first by people like us, and eventually by others who learn from us or on their on initiative.

Religion can't adapt without ultimately losing itself. Just as well.
-- me

I suspect the above has been true practically since religion was first innovated. Indeed, a reactive nature may be part of all religions.

Comment by Loren Miller on March 28, 2018 at 9:47pm

Regardless of what happens to Trump, there will be people like us who remember that the evangelicals hitched their wagon to him, despite his utterly evident total lack of morality, whether that regards pussy-grabbing or welshing on payments to contractors.

In the long haul, evangelicals backing Trump could be the single biggest mistake they ever made.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 28, 2018 at 9:44pm

“Evangelicals could wind up losing the overall fight for moral authority over the country and the world.”

~ Eugene Scott, Evangelicals continue to apply moral relativism in dealing with Tru...

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on March 28, 2018 at 7:26pm

What, did you take a math lesson from a creationist?

--Lip on Shameless to Karen who'd just suggested a completely  impossible timeline for who was the father of her baby.

Comment by Cane Kostovski on March 28, 2018 at 2:53pm

Good one Bertold

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on March 28, 2018 at 7:38am

Comment by Loren Miller on March 28, 2018 at 7:19am

You don't get to advertise all the good that your religion does without first scrupulously subtracting all the harm it does and considering seriously the question of whether some other religion, or no religion at all, does better.
-- Daniel C. Dennett

We’re told that God is loving and kind and just and intrinsically good. But when someone like myself points out the rather obvious and compelling evidence that God is cruel and unjust, because he visits suffering on innocent people of a scope and scale that would embarrass the most ambitious psychopath, we are told that god is mysterious. Who can understand god’s will? Yet this merely human understanding of God's will is precisely what believers use to establish his goodness in the first place. If something good happens to a Christian — he feels some bliss while praying, or he sees some positive change his life — we're told that God is good. But when children by the tens of thousands are torn from their parents’ arms and drowned, we are told god is mysterious. This is how you play tennis without the net.
-- Sam Harris, from his debate with William Lane Craig

Personally, I think these two quotes say it all.

Comment by Loren Miller on March 27, 2018 at 7:42am

So ... because the guy in the front office effectively has no morals, that gives license for those who presuppose their own righteousness to foist their biblical morality on all and sundry?  I can think of several entities who will instantly have a problem with such actions, starting with multiple local law enforcement associations and their courts, never mind any persons who pride themselves on the ability of free and independent thought

You REALLY want a civil war?  There's a great way to spark one.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on March 27, 2018 at 7:34am

American evangelicals, by and large, have decided that they can ignore Trump’s personal morality because they are getting something far more important in return — the chance to impose their personal morality on others.

--Jason Sattler

Comment by Loren Miller on March 27, 2018 at 5:39am

Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
-- Robert A. Heinlein

I would extend that recommendation to anyone wishing to teach Catholic priests to have empathy for their molestation victims ... or to instruct Donald Trump on how to be presidential.

 

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