Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

Discussion Forum

Sam Harris on Morality and the Christian God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller 13 hours ago. 2 Replies

The debate between Sam Harris and William Lane Craig at Notre Dame in 2011 was particularly notable for one particular rebuttal by Harris to Craig, well into the debate.  Those 10 or so minutes…Continue

Big Bang vs Electric Universe, Lawrence Krauss' response

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller yesterday. 2 Replies

I wrote to Lawrence Krauss during the discussion of Big Bang vs Electric Universe:"Thurs, 5:54 PM, Lawrence, I belong to Atheist Nexus and a rather ugly debate began about the Big Bang Theory. One…Continue

The Oneida Perfectionists

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller May 17. 4 Replies

The Oneida Perfectionists had a vision of utopian life, and they structured their communities according to ideological similarities.1. First, it believed that its members had entered into an…Continue

Tags: communist, authoritarian, leadership, utopia, free-love

Christianity Founded by a Murderer

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Alan Perlman Apr 21. 4 Replies

Constantine did what?As he gained power, he became more suspicious of even family and friends. He ordered them to be put to death by various means.MaximianHis father-in-lawHe impelled to hang…Continue

Tags: baptized, escape, guilt, be, repent

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Comment by Joan Denoo on March 28, 2018 at 9:44pm

“Evangelicals could wind up losing the overall fight for moral authority over the country and the world.”

~ Eugene Scott, Evangelicals continue to apply moral relativism in dealing with Tru...

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on March 28, 2018 at 7:26pm

What, did you take a math lesson from a creationist?

--Lip on Shameless to Karen who'd just suggested a completely  impossible timeline for who was the father of her baby.

Comment by Cane Kostovski on March 28, 2018 at 2:53pm

Good one Bertold

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on March 28, 2018 at 7:38am

Comment by Loren Miller on March 28, 2018 at 7:19am

You don't get to advertise all the good that your religion does without first scrupulously subtracting all the harm it does and considering seriously the question of whether some other religion, or no religion at all, does better.
-- Daniel C. Dennett

We’re told that God is loving and kind and just and intrinsically good. But when someone like myself points out the rather obvious and compelling evidence that God is cruel and unjust, because he visits suffering on innocent people of a scope and scale that would embarrass the most ambitious psychopath, we are told that god is mysterious. Who can understand god’s will? Yet this merely human understanding of God's will is precisely what believers use to establish his goodness in the first place. If something good happens to a Christian — he feels some bliss while praying, or he sees some positive change his life — we're told that God is good. But when children by the tens of thousands are torn from their parents’ arms and drowned, we are told god is mysterious. This is how you play tennis without the net.
-- Sam Harris, from his debate with William Lane Craig

Personally, I think these two quotes say it all.

Comment by Loren Miller on March 27, 2018 at 7:42am

So ... because the guy in the front office effectively has no morals, that gives license for those who presuppose their own righteousness to foist their biblical morality on all and sundry?  I can think of several entities who will instantly have a problem with such actions, starting with multiple local law enforcement associations and their courts, never mind any persons who pride themselves on the ability of free and independent thought

You REALLY want a civil war?  There's a great way to spark one.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on March 27, 2018 at 7:34am

American evangelicals, by and large, have decided that they can ignore Trump’s personal morality because they are getting something far more important in return — the chance to impose their personal morality on others.

--Jason Sattler

Comment by Loren Miller on March 27, 2018 at 5:39am

Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
-- Robert A. Heinlein

I would extend that recommendation to anyone wishing to teach Catholic priests to have empathy for their molestation victims ... or to instruct Donald Trump on how to be presidential.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 27, 2018 at 3:50am

“All art is a kind of confession, more or less oblique. All artists, if they are to survive, are forced, at last, to tell the whole story; to vomit the anguish up.”

~ James Baldwin, Conversations with James Baldwin, Page 21.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 26, 2018 at 3:19pm

What are the things that atheim provide me as I am a questioning, searching, exploring, and experimenting, person with a lack of belief in any gods?

1. People who value questioning, searching, exploring, and experimenting while lacking belief in any gods;

2. If a god makes her/him/its self known, I am capable of that thought, even as I find it highly improbable that any god exists to be known;

3. I like to investigate claims, especially if they involve some political action taking place, and learning all I can as I take a position one way or another; 

4. I like to be challenged by others who disagree with what I say or write, it gives me a chance to rethink an issue and arrive at my own position;

5. I like to debate issues that cause conflict, especially if all parties know how to debate; 

6. I am intollerant of name-calling, and blaming without evidence, I especially hate "asshole," "puke," and "a piece of shit."

 

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