Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

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Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Sep 14. 2 Replies

The word “Permaculture” is the combination of the two words “permanent” and “agriculture.” It is a method of agricultural philosophy that allows gardeners to create and sustain growing food in a way…Continue

Tags: production, shelter, food, permaculture, Mollison

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Sep 10. 5 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

Will McAvoy's Rant: "America Is NOT the World's Greatest Country"

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 25. 3 Replies

Aaron Sorkin has a habit of swinging for the fences when he writes political commentary as entertainment for television.  This was first evinced in the network television series, The West Wing, and…Continue

Tags: The Newsroom, Will McAvoy, Aaron Sorkin

Ingersoll Day August 11th

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius Aug 12. 2 Replies

Robert Green Ingersoll (1833-1899)"When I became convinced that the universe is natural, that all the ghosts and gods are myths, there entered into my brain, into my soul, into every drop of my blood…Continue

Tags: fearless, joyous, freedom, Day, agnostic

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Comment by Joan Denoo on April 7, 2018 at 7:14pm

To offer up an individual for sainthood implies that person has supernatural powers to know right from evil. It appears, from what we now know of Agnes Bojaxhiu, she knew neither the knowledge of what was magnificent nor what was vile. For the pope to submit her name to sainthood reveals more about him than it does about her.

Neither had the qualities that matter.

Comment by Loren Miller on April 7, 2018 at 6:26pm

I think I first heard of an actual "Devil's Advocate" process through Heinlein's book, Job: A Comedy of Justice, in the vetting of "Saint Alexander Hergensheimer," the novel's protagonist.  To me, the fact that they've dropped the adversarial process is at least suggestive that they themselves are recognizing that they're dealing in bullshit and simply don't care.  Of course, their sheep remain happily clueless to these facts, so nothing changes.

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 7, 2018 at 9:53am

That quote from Hitch is very interesting.  I never knew they used a Devil's Advocate at any time.

Comment by Loren Miller on April 7, 2018 at 6:36am

When the late Pope John Paul II decided to place the woman so strangely known as “Mother” Teresa on the fast track for beatification, and thus to qualify her for eventual sainthood, the Vatican felt obliged to solicit my testimony and I thus spent several hours in a closed hearing room with a priest, a deacon, and a monsignor, no doubt making their day as I told off, as from a rosary, the frightful faults and crimes of the departed fanatic. In the course of this, I discovered that the pope during his tenure had surreptitiously abolished the famous office of “Devil’s Advocate,” in order to fast‐track still more of his many candidates for canonization. I can thus claim to be the only living person to have represented the Devil pro bono.
-- Christopher Hitchens, Hitch-22

I saw the above quote and went, "Whoa! The Vatican consulted with the HITCH???" And of course, the next reaction is: "And they ignored his input, of course." This little bit of history truly reveals the Holy See's utter lack of integrity, in their determination to elevate Agnes Bojaxhiu to sainthood and dismiss any notice of the behaviors which should have denied her that position.

I swear, it is to laugh.

Comment by Patricia on April 6, 2018 at 6:57pm

Never have liked the term, & even less as a girl's name.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 6, 2018 at 6:52pm

Gwaithmir and Loren, I agree! Faith is not something for which to be proud; it is a signal of thoughtless irresponsibility. 

Comment by Loren Miller on April 6, 2018 at 6:49pm

Gwaithmir, if faith equates to anything, it's gullibility. Somehow or other, we need to strip faith of the respectability it has inappropriately earned.

Comment by Gwaithmir on April 6, 2018 at 6:43pm

"Faith means making a virtue out of not thinking. lt's nothing to brag about. And those who preach faith and enable and elevate it are our intellectual slaveholders, keeping mankind in a bondage to fantasy and nonsense that has spawned and justified so much lunacy and destruction." (Bill Maher)

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on April 6, 2018 at 11:39am

To me, greatness goes a little deeper than how much marble we put in our hotel lobbies and whether we have a Soviet-style military parade. America at its best is a place where people from a multitude of backgrounds work together to safeguard the rights and enrich the lives of all. That’s the example we have always aspired to set and the model people around the world hunger to see. And no politician, not even one in the Oval Office, should be allowed to tarnish that dream.

--Madeleine Albright

Comment by Loren Miller on April 6, 2018 at 4:44am

We are all atheists about most of the gods that societies have ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.
-- Richard Dawkins

And in association with that:

I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
-- Stephen F. Roberts

 

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