Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

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Ingersoll Day August 11th

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius on Sunday. 2 Replies

Robert Green Ingersoll (1833-1899)"When I became convinced that the universe is natural, that all the ghosts and gods are myths, there entered into my brain, into my soul, into every drop of my blood…Continue

Tags: fearless, joyous, freedom, Day, agnostic

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Jul 2. 3 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

Sam Harris on Morality and the Christian God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller May 24. 2 Replies

The debate between Sam Harris and William Lane Craig at Notre Dame in 2011 was particularly notable for one particular rebuttal by Harris to Craig, well into the debate.  Those 10 or so minutes…Continue

Big Bang vs Electric Universe, Lawrence Krauss' response

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller May 23. 2 Replies

I wrote to Lawrence Krauss during the discussion of Big Bang vs Electric Universe:"Thurs, 5:54 PM, Lawrence, I belong to Atheist Nexus and a rather ugly debate began about the Big Bang Theory. One…Continue

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Comment by Joan Denoo on April 16, 2018 at 2:39am

Affordable housing

Alcohol-related traffic fatalities

Child poverty

High school completion

Infant mortality

Teenage births

Unemployment

Wages

Age 65-plus poverty

Child abuse

Health care coverage

Inequality in family income

Life expectancy

Teenage drug use

Violent crime

Youth suicide

This study defines the social wellbeing of the U.S. from 1970 to 1998. Production of goods and services rise as Social health declines over the years. 

How do we measure "standard of living?"

~Marc Miringoff, director of the Fordham University Institute for Innovation in Social Policy and 

~ Marque-Luisa Miringoff, professor of sociology at Vallar College. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 16, 2018 at 2:10am

OK, change the language, "We are a peace-making people," is a preferred assumption and one that can be developed. Just as making war requires effort, so does making peace. 

Peace doesn't just happen, obviously, but when confronted with the current state of affairs, one can hardly see a way to turn the culture around. 

Creating a "partnership" society flies in the face of capitalism that requires growth even when the planet has limits to growth. Capitalism also requires material consumption to the point when one wonders when is enough, enough? Capitalism needs a poverty class that drives wages down. Capitalism requires war. Capitalism requires socialism for the wealthy while working class people work harder, producing more goods and services; production rises as wages remain stagnant. More good and services mean more profits for the owners of capital as wages remain stagnant. 

A new deal with capitalism requires a revolution in politics and ma...

Does capitalism require endless growth in material consumption?;

Capitalism requires a stable and dependable money system;

Away with economic quackery – capitalism requires capital;

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on April 15, 2018 at 10:56pm

Bertold, I see "We are a war-making people." as a Dominator Culture assumption which is harmful. Just because we've made war on one another, doesn't mean that's our only possibility. Habitual liars like to say "Everybody lies". It's narrowing, like blinders on a horse. We are also love-making people, caring people, thoughtful people, planners, builders, and music makers. It's similar to the logical error of blaming, which defines the worth of the whole person by one unfortunate choice, instead of using the language of responsibility, which shows respect for the whole person while denouncing the one behavior.

Comment by Patricia on April 15, 2018 at 9:12pm

Yes, pretty simple.

Comment by Loren Miller on April 15, 2018 at 8:58pm

Works for me, Patricia!

Comment by Patricia on April 15, 2018 at 6:11pm

Ask the question, here's the answer.....

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Comment by Loren Miller on April 15, 2018 at 3:19pm

The fiery trial through which we pass will light us down in honor or dishonor to the latest generation. We, even we here, hold the power and bear the responsibility. -- Abraham Lincoln

Joan, it would seem as though even the passage of over 150 years has changed the base nature of politics very little. Mark the quote above.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 15, 2018 at 2:57pm

"War is being made in our name again. Every decision about the war being made in our names is our responsibility whether we want it to be or not, just as every decision, large and small, that produced the current presidency* is our responsibility whether we want it to be or not. The correction of this profound mistake, and the reconstruction of the institutions and norms smashed by this administration* will be our responsibility whether we want it to be or not."

~ Charles P. Pierce, ”We are a War-Making People,” Esquire, April 13, 2018

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 15, 2018 at 2:35pm

"Billions of people believe in human rights, and it is the basis for our legal system, but in fact human rights exist only in our imagination. If you cut open a human you won’t find any rights, yet still everyone believes this invented story, and it enables us to co-operate even with complete strangers."

~  Yuval Harari, Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on April 15, 2018 at 12:47pm

We are a war-making people. We try to find a way to mitigate this most basic fact. We try to gussy it up with humanitarian gloss and a thick coat of euphemism. But, today, from our armchairs and recliners, we love the boom-boom. On Friday night, you could almost see the entirely justified skepticism with which the TV reporters have approached this administration* drain away at the first cool video of a missile coursing through the darkened Syrian sky. The echoes of how gleefully TV got onboard with the Iraq adventure were quite distinct; Brian Williams was positively giddy reading out the list of Naval vessels involved in the action. God, TV loves itself a good war.

--Charles Pierce

 

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