Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

Discussion Forum

Sam Harris on Morality and the Christian God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller on Thursday. 2 Replies

The debate between Sam Harris and William Lane Craig at Notre Dame in 2011 was particularly notable for one particular rebuttal by Harris to Craig, well into the debate.  Those 10 or so minutes…Continue

Big Bang vs Electric Universe, Lawrence Krauss' response

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller on Wednesday. 2 Replies

I wrote to Lawrence Krauss during the discussion of Big Bang vs Electric Universe:"Thurs, 5:54 PM, Lawrence, I belong to Atheist Nexus and a rather ugly debate began about the Big Bang Theory. One…Continue

The Oneida Perfectionists

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller May 17. 4 Replies

The Oneida Perfectionists had a vision of utopian life, and they structured their communities according to ideological similarities.1. First, it believed that its members had entered into an…Continue

Tags: communist, authoritarian, leadership, utopia, free-love

Christianity Founded by a Murderer

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Alan Perlman Apr 21. 4 Replies

Constantine did what?As he gained power, he became more suspicious of even family and friends. He ordered them to be put to death by various means.MaximianHis father-in-lawHe impelled to hang…Continue

Tags: baptized, escape, guilt, be, repent

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Comment by Patricia on April 20, 2018 at 10:13pm

this conveys my confusion at times as to what is, what isn't and what i wish…

Comment by Patricia on April 20, 2018 at 8:01pm

The roman catholic church began its real career with the christian emperor Constantine, who hanged his father-in-law, strangled his brother-in-law, murdered his nephew, beheaded his eldest son, and killed his wife.

-------Mangasar Magurditch Mangasarian

Ain't religion great!

Comment by Loren Miller on April 20, 2018 at 5:38am

What I have a problem with is not so much religion or god, but faith. When you say you believe something in your heart and therefore you can act on it, you have completely justified the 9/11 bombers. You have justified Charlie Manson. If it's true for you, why isn't it true for them? Why are you different? If you say "I believe there's an all-powerful force of love in the universe that connects us all, and I have no evidence of that but I believe it in my heart," then it's perfectly okay to believe in your heart that Sharon Tate deserves to die. It's perfectly okay to believe in your heart that you need to fly planes into buildings for Allah.
― Penn Jillette

I think I posted this back with Daniel's original Quotations group. I liked it then and I like it now, because it gives expression to a critical fact: faith may be used to justify ANYTHING ... which makes it dangerous.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 19, 2018 at 11:28am

Comment by Loren Miller on April 19, 2018 at 9:02am

[sigh] In the immortal words of that great philosopher and Gryffindor, Hermione Granger:

What.  An.  Idiot.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on April 19, 2018 at 8:51am

Ugandan President Wants To Ban Oral Sex
April 18, 2018 by Michael Stone

Patheos

Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni, a conservative evangelical Christian, wants to ban oral sex because “the mouth is for eating, not for sex.”

Comment by Loren Miller on April 19, 2018 at 6:45am

God is an ever-receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller and smaller as time goes on.
-- Neil deGrasse Tyson

And while I think about that one, here's a poser: when is the last time religion made a contribution to our understanding of reality in the same fashion that science does.  Take your time; I can wait...

Comment by Loren Miller on April 18, 2018 at 6:28am

Joan, relating to your experience with your grandchildren:

If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich.
-- John F. Kennedy

The poor make some uncomfortable, because they are a reminder that anyone may be one or two random events or poor choices away from that very status and that some have resisted doing anything about their plight purely to further solidify their own position.  Greed and a lack of empathy are their hallmarks, added to an utter lack of qualification to deal with actually being IN the position of being poor.

When avarice grows that mean, I seriously wonder if such a society can survive ... and yeah, I'm talking about US.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 17, 2018 at 3:11pm

My teaching agenda was always self-reliance, taking an active role in improving the quality of their lives, and teaching the skills they needed to pick themselves up and take responsibility for their well-being. I taught reading, writing, arithmetic, nutrition, cooking, gardening. At a housing project in Washington, D.C. the pre-school age children helped me dig up garden areas, plant seeds, and grow their food. That was a wonderful experience to see their joy as they ate the fruits of their efforts. The adults joined in and felt pride as they put food on their tables that they grew. 

I didn't know about permaculture then, but it provides a simple process of building soil, growing food, preserving the excess while enjoying fresh foods from the garden. The greening of the housing project resulted in food for their tables. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 17, 2018 at 3:07pm

I sent the photo of the starving mother nursing her starving child with an explanation of wealth and poverty to my grandchildren, ranging in age from 10 to 18. My son, the father of two boys, ages 12 & 14 rebuked me for sending such a scene to his two sons. One of them opened the photo on his iPhone at school and his friends teased him about it. When I found out about his experience I asked why teachers didn't guide the boys to an understanding of the meaning of poverty and starvation. Why did my son not make it clear that there are children in this world who do not go to private schools, have private music lessons and soccer teams, and they do not have families that can protect them and feed them and provide health and education for them?

The teachers and my son failed to help the boys process this information. Craig knows I have always been involved with educating the poor and I took him and his brother and sister to children's homes, housing projects in WA. D.C., and homeless shelters in Juarez, Mexico when they were younger than his boys. My children knew about hunger and homelessness because they witnessed it as children and helped me as I provided education for the poorest of the poor. 

 

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