Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful


Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

Discussion Forum

The Oneida Perfectionists

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller on Friday. 4 Replies

The Oneida Perfectionists had a vision of utopian life, and they structured their communities according to ideological similarities.1. First, it believed that its members had entered into an…Continue

Tags: communist, authoritarian, leadership, utopia, free-love

Christianity Founded by a Murderer

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Alan Perlman Apr 21. 4 Replies

Constantine did what?As he gained power, he became more suspicious of even family and friends. He ordered them to be put to death by various means.MaximianHis father-in-lawHe impelled to hang…Continue

Tags: baptized, escape, guilt, be, repent


Started by Cane Kostovski. Last reply by Joan Denoo Apr 18. 16 Replies

“Here, where a thousandCaptains swore grand conquest. . .TallGrass their monument.”― BashoWhat does this quote mean to you? To me it portrays deep deep effort that was for nothing. Deep Deep Wasted…Continue

Roy Moore Is Exactly What the Republican Party Is All About

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Cane Kostovski Jan 23. 3 Replies

"The religious right was not born out of opposition to Roe v. Wade. It was born out of opposition to Brown v. Board."~ …Continue

Tags: Roe, right, v., Wade, Board

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Comment by Joan Denoo on April 22, 2018 at 2:48pm

I like Black's quote! Timely for our situation. 

Comment by Loren Miller on April 22, 2018 at 8:39am

The founding fathers gave the free press the protection it must have to fulfill its essential role it has in our democracy. The press was to serve the governed, not the governors.
-- Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black

The above quote came from the Supreme Court decision in US v New York Times and was cited toward the end of the movie, The Post. To say it is timely in the current day is to state the obvious.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 22, 2018 at 1:33am

If god exists, there would be many universities of peace, instructions on how to work with different races, there would be no class and indeed no class warfare. There would be information about our common traits and the things we have in common. 

If god exists there would be evidence of unifying all beliefs, dogmas, litanies, traditions, and values into a coherent whole. 

If god exists we would be led by choirmasters leading songs of people from around the globe singing together in celebrations of our lives. 

Because there is no evidence that god exists, Homo sapiens have to figure out a way to live on the planet without killing each other and all living forms. 

There are some who say, "The universe is drifting toward disorder." I don't see that. Scientists can predict the movement of stars in their paths to the hour. 

I am not a physicist. However, existence seems to be very ordered. The ways human beings think and act appear to grow even more chaotic.  Especially with Trump, and the chaos created by his minions making disorder. It isn't the physical aspects of the planet; it is the social aspect that seems to be going to a literal hell. 

Comment by Loren Miller on April 21, 2018 at 6:38pm

"God is in control," eh?  If that is, in fact, the case, then why would anyone worship a being who would subject the world the the kind of mad, inhuman suffering and us-vs-them struggles, all while failing to show the least hint of his own existence.

It's a blunt fact: the world behaves as though there is NO GOD ... and until there is evidence to the contrary, that's the premise under which I operate.

Comment by Joan Denoo on April 21, 2018 at 1:41pm

Bertold, that powerful statement of Nelle Smith reveals the terrible truth of the religious fervor that underlies these current political and religious times. 

"I partnered with neuroscientists, who used MRI to compare the brain activity of devout Christians to that of brand fans. It turned out that brand iconography activated the same region in the brains of fans that was activated in the brains of Christians when they were exposed to faith-related triggers."


If Apple cultivated religious followings, is it not feasible that progressive values can be cultivated by the same strategies?

The strategies used to cultivate a following:

A sense of belonging 

An Enemy

Sensory appeal 





Rituals . 

The article defines each strategy.



Comment by Bertold Brautigan on April 21, 2018 at 11:42am

But every extreme idea gets its DNA from a more legitimate idea—usually from one that is innocuous on the surface—and even mainstream evangelicalism is saturated with ideas and narratives that enable a certain apathy toward the human consequences of political action.

Consider the refrain “in the world, but not of it,” the insistence that earth is just a place of trial and suffering before the final destination of heaven. Consider the popularity of Left Behind, the wildly popular book series that paints the destruction of human life as regrettable but necessary collateral damage in Christian victory. Or consider a milder form: “God is in control,” the ubiquitous phrase used all over social media to comfort those scared for their lives after the election of Donald Trump.

“God is in control.”

Was there ever such a whitewashed sepulcher of a phrase? Was there ever a slogan so beautifully engineered as to simulate theological uprightness while simultaneously exempting the wielder from any hint of personal responsibility?

--Nelle Smith

Comment by Loren Miller on April 21, 2018 at 6:36am

I am now convinced that children should not be subjected to the frightfulness of the Christian religion [...]. If the concept of a father who plots to have his own son put to death is presented to children as beautiful and as worthy of society's admiration, what types of human behavior can be presented to them as reprehensible?
― Ruth Hurmence Green, The Born Again Skeptic's Guide To The Bible

The more I see the words of Ms. Green, the more I think that I would be the better for picking up her book. The lady sees the bible as it is, and she minces no words in her evaluation of it.

Comment by Loren Miller on April 20, 2018 at 10:24pm

I'm an engineer and a troubleshooter and a pragmatist, and that can be painful.  "That power supply is near-impossible to remove from the frame, but it's failed, and it has to go if you want your device to work."  "You didn't provide protection from transients, so when the lightning hit, it blew out most of the system, and it'll cost $50,000 to replace those components."  I lived with those kinds of "painful truths" for 30 years as a professional, and even now as a consultant.  In the job world, when you don't recognize realities, the shit hits the fan, and all hiding from reality does is delay the inevitable a tiny bit.

If you don't have the balls to face the music, don't step onto the dance floor.

Comment by Patricia on April 20, 2018 at 10:13pm

this conveys my confusion at times as to what is, what isn't and what i wish…

Comment by Patricia on April 20, 2018 at 8:01pm

The roman catholic church began its real career with the christian emperor Constantine, who hanged his father-in-law, strangled his brother-in-law, murdered his nephew, beheaded his eldest son, and killed his wife.

-------Mangasar Magurditch Mangasarian

Ain't religion great!


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