Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

Discussion Forum

On authority, obedience, and "liberal" vs. "conservative" values

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jul 1. 1 Reply

Last week Loren shared this quotation in the group comments:But here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first freethinker and the emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial…Continue

Tags: politics, purity, loyalty, liberal, conservative

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Craigart14 Jun 1. 6 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

"We need a much broader conversation on what morality of pro-life is"

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius Apr 28. 3 Replies

"I do not believe that just because you're opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a…Continue

Tags: Planned, Parenthood, contraception, Pro-life,, O.S.B.

Aron Ra on Gods, Demons, and the Meaning of Life

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Apr 20. 2 Replies

This isn't quite a rant, but it's more than just a talk or a speech.  What follows here is the end of something Aron Ra delivered several years ago which has stuck with me practically since I first…Continue

Tags: soul, bible, skeptic, devil, god

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Comment by Joan Denoo on May 21, 2018 at 1:15am

“In all cases where a majority are united by a common interest or passion, the rights of the minority are in danger.”

~ James Madison, "as a revolutionary thinker, as a partisan political strategist, and as a president“

Comment by Loren Miller on May 20, 2018 at 6:15am

If I were not an atheist, I would believe in a God who would choose to save people on the basis of the totality of their lives and not the pattern of their words. I think he would prefer an honest and righteous atheist to a TV preacher whose every word is God, God, God, and whose every deed is foul, foul, foul.
-- Isaac Asimov

Certainly, Isaac's concept of a god is far more tolerable than the sorts we see out in the world. I guess the question becomes: can an exclusively loving god be as manipulative of his flock as one who alternatively loves and judges? I'm pretty sure not.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 20, 2018 at 1:41am

Loren, I like your metaphor of sailing into the wind and "Learning and harnessing skills is how we improve ourselves and the lives of others, and it is something which religion knows NOTHING about."

Comment by Loren Miller on May 19, 2018 at 7:47am

The sailor does not pray for wind, he learns to sail.
-- Gustaf Lindborg

And when he learns to tack, he can even sail almost INTO the wind, as contradictory as that may sound.

Prayer is useless.  Learning and harnessing skills is how we improve ourselves and the lives of others, and it is something which religion knows NOTHING about.

Comment by Loren Miller on May 19, 2018 at 7:43am

LSD was and is interesting, but I think Pollan goes a bit hyperbolic with his statement there.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 18, 2018 at 7:00am

Hitch does have a way with words!

Comment by Loren Miller on May 18, 2018 at 5:40am

So this is where all the vapid talk about the "soul" of the universe is actually headed. Once the hard-won principles of reason and science have been discredited, the world will not pass into the hands of credulous herbivores who keep crystals by their sides and swoon over the poems of Khalil Gibran. The "vacuum" will be invaded instead by determined fundamentalists of every stripe who already know the truth by means of revelation and who actually seek real and serious power in the here and now. One thinks of the painstaking, cloud-dispelling labor of British scientists from Isaac Newton to Joseph Priestley to Charles Darwin to Ernest Rutherford to Alan Turing and Francis Crick, much of it built upon the shoulders of Galileo and Copernicus, only to see it casually slandered by a moral and intellectual weakling from the usurping House of Hanover. An awful embarrassment awaits the British if they do not declare for a republic based on verifiable laws and principles, both political and scientific.
-- Christopher Hitchens

Once again, Hitchens calls a spade a spade, and I am happy to sit back and applaud.

Comment by Loren Miller on May 17, 2018 at 9:35pm

Bertold, AA is yet another in a series of Christian farces.  Its success rate is ludicrous by comparison with alternative, results-based techniques currently in use and available.  I know this because I have a friend who is directly involved in such a program, and he is as much an atheist as I am.

I've said it before and will repeat: WE are the authors of our actions.  Whatever gets accomplished on this planet (or off it) is done by US and no one else other than us.  There are no supernatural third parties, and if there were, we'd know about it

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 17, 2018 at 5:29pm

Tom, I do not mean any disrespect as I ask others for their reasoning. There must be something that I am not getting and I would like to know. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 17, 2018 at 5:28pm

Loren, and anyone who has an interest in the topic:

I am not asking to be critical or judgmental, however, Tom has been espousing the electricity theory and those who respond make negative statements about it. I read the material Tom supplied us and I am no wiser now than before. 

May I ask, why is there this conflict and why is it so obvious to others and not to me? 

 

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