Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

Discussion Forum

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Jul 2. 3 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

Sam Harris on Morality and the Christian God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller May 24. 2 Replies

The debate between Sam Harris and William Lane Craig at Notre Dame in 2011 was particularly notable for one particular rebuttal by Harris to Craig, well into the debate.  Those 10 or so minutes…Continue

Big Bang vs Electric Universe, Lawrence Krauss' response

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller May 23. 2 Replies

I wrote to Lawrence Krauss during the discussion of Big Bang vs Electric Universe:"Thurs, 5:54 PM, Lawrence, I belong to Atheist Nexus and a rather ugly debate began about the Big Bang Theory. One…Continue

The Oneida Perfectionists

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller May 17. 4 Replies

The Oneida Perfectionists had a vision of utopian life, and they structured their communities according to ideological similarities.1. First, it believed that its members had entered into an…Continue

Tags: communist, authoritarian, leadership, utopia, free-love

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Comment by Joan Denoo on June 23, 2018 at 3:27pm

"The fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown."

~ Carl Sagan, Broca's Brain (1979), p. 64 ISBN 0394501691

Comment by Loren Miller on June 23, 2018 at 5:49am

You don’t have to be brave or a saint, a martyr, or even very smart to be an atheist. All you have to be able to say is “I don’t know”.
― Penn Jillette

And it astonishes me how difficult it is for believers to make that simple concession.  However, I would amend Penn's statement to add: "and neither do YOU."

Comment by Patricia on June 23, 2018 at 2:08am

Comment by Patricia on June 22, 2018 at 1:58pm

That's what I couldn't figure out when I was very young....if it was so all powerful why couldn't it do its own damn work?

Comment by Loren Miller on June 22, 2018 at 5:36am

Okay ... god tells this young man to go kill a baby or a 30-year-old man or whatever. My instant response: why do you need ME to do it? Is this an Abraham-and-Isaac thing? Is this a test, or do you just want this person dead, for whatever reason? And for that matter, what IS the reason? Sorry, but your being god and wanting someone dead is disturbing enough to begin with, and needing me to carry this out is even more disturbing, particularly when you could do it yourself.

Point being: yeah, I question, anything and everything, including god, and especially as it comes to life and death matters. I don't accept anyone's dictate without question. Don't like it? Lump it.

-- me

Pronouncements from Yahweh, especially of this sort, are problematic in the extreme and for the reason I cited: he could do it himself ... IF he existed at all. It is far more likely the case that someone else wants the deed done and is using the old boy in the clouds as imprimatur for the deed.

Sorry ... not having any.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on June 21, 2018 at 7:05pm
Don't lend your hand to raise no flag
Atop no ship of fools.

~Robert Plant & Phil Johnstone
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on June 21, 2018 at 6:53pm
The dysfunction is massive and general. Nobody in a position of authority in the Republican Party seems to have the faintest idea how to govern the country. And, on the border, children who once were hostages to political gamesmanship have traded that status for being hostages to political incompetence. Cruelty has many faces. This one is the one wearing a clown nose.

~Charles Pierce
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on June 21, 2018 at 2:40pm

I thank god I'm a Catholic because sex will always be dirty.

~John Waters

If you go home with somebody, and they don't have books, don't fuck 'em! 


~John Waters

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 21, 2018 at 12:46pm

Sex has become more and more attractive because it feels good.

- me

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 21, 2018 at 12:42pm
From a friend on Facebook:

"MY CONFESSION

"I have a confession to make.

"I was raised a Christian and at age 13 I figured out Christianity was a story, and there no reason to believe it was true. But those few years as a Christian burned something in my brain that took almost fifty years to erase.

"For most of my life, there seemed to be something good and righteous about being a Christian. That thought stopped me from criticising Christianity too harshly, even though I did not believe the Christian God was real and I thought Christian theology was barking mad. So for all those years, I focused on talking about God, but not about Christianity.

"Deep inside, I felt there was something treacherous and dishonorable in saying the honest truth about Christianity.

"Only in recent years have I been able to articulate what reason has been telling me since I was 13. For those who've spent 50 years as a Christian, I have a small idea how hard it must be for you to say what you truly believe.

"The truth is, Christianity gave us the Crusades with bloody slaughter of the innocents, the Inquisition with the terrible torture of tens of thousands and witch hunts with the burning to death and drowning of innocent men and women. Even to this day, we see children being tortured to release imaginary demons, elderly folk being burned as witches and gay folk being kicked and beaten to death.

"Now, at last, I am free to say it. Christianity has no basis in fact. It is a vile religion, based on human sacrifice that has caused the brutal deaths of more than a million human beings and continues to kill innocent people.

"There is nothing righteous in being a Christian. And there is nothing dishonorable in telling the truth about it.

Bill Flavell, Facebook, June 20, 2018

 

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