Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

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Ideas

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Sep 14. 2 Replies

The word “Permaculture” is the combination of the two words “permanent” and “agriculture.” It is a method of agricultural philosophy that allows gardeners to create and sustain growing food in a way…Continue

Tags: production, shelter, food, permaculture, Mollison

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Sep 10. 5 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

Will McAvoy's Rant: "America Is NOT the World's Greatest Country"

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 25. 3 Replies

Aaron Sorkin has a habit of swinging for the fences when he writes political commentary as entertainment for television.  This was first evinced in the network television series, The West Wing, and…Continue

Tags: The Newsroom, Will McAvoy, Aaron Sorkin

Ingersoll Day August 11th

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius Aug 12. 2 Replies

Robert Green Ingersoll (1833-1899)"When I became convinced that the universe is natural, that all the ghosts and gods are myths, there entered into my brain, into my soul, into every drop of my blood…Continue

Tags: fearless, joyous, freedom, Day, agnostic

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Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 16, 2018 at 10:03pm

Well there you hit the nail on the head, my friend. Our own nature is indeed what he was warning us about, and it's also what elected Dolt45.

If you don't believe me, viz. Forbidden Planet, best cheesy SF flick of the 50s.

Comment by Loren Miller on July 16, 2018 at 9:44pm

It doesn't take a lot to understand why George Orwell matters.  He was doing his damnedest to warn us about our own nature, whether it was Animal Farm or 1984.  The good news is that some of us were listening.  The bad news is that we weren't enough.  That doesn't change the fact that I'm still determined to fight.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 16, 2018 at 9:34pm
I'm sure George appreciates your kind offer, but if his mortal coil were unshuffled, I suspect he'd decline.

Have you read the Hitch's "Why Orwell Matters?" Good shit.
Comment by Loren Miller on July 16, 2018 at 9:06pm

And that, Bertold, is why we fight. As for Orwell, he can bite me.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 16, 2018 at 9:02pm
And the status quo religion wants maintained looks a whole lot like George Orwell envisioned our future:

“If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—forever.”
Comment by Loren Miller on July 16, 2018 at 8:56pm

That is an exceptionally perceptive quote, Joan. What it tells me is that religion, above and beyond anything else, is interested primarily in maintaining the status quo. That means it is not interested in the new or the novel or anything that would threaten what it thinks it knows.

In short, it says that that religion wants to keep things as they are.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 16, 2018 at 8:45pm

"Intellectually religious emotions are not creative but conservative. They attach themselves readily to the current view of the world and consecrate it."
~ John Dewey
William James, John Dewey, John M. Capps, Donald Capps (2005). “James and Dewey on Belief and Experience”, p.180, University of Illinois Press

con·serv·a·tive, adjective, "holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in relation to politics or religion."

pro·gres·sive, adjective, favoring or implementing social reform or new, liberal ideas.

What about condoning ideas such as slavery, submissive wives, corporal punishment of children, allowing refugees into our country, the wealth gap, money buys elections? 

Comment by Loren Miller on July 16, 2018 at 5:26am

And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence
-- Bertrand Russell

Depends on what kind of god we're talking about, I suppose. The god of the bible seems to be so insecure and arrogant and micromanaging that vanity would be among its primary characteristics. Keep in mind that this is the same god "whose name is Jealous" (Exodus 34:14), and jealousy and vanity have a bad habit of traveling together.

Comment by Plinius on July 15, 2018 at 6:39am

thanks Loren! I like the company here very much!

Comment by Loren Miller on July 15, 2018 at 6:09am

Of all religions the Christian is without doubt the one which should inspire tolerance most, although up to now the Christians have been the most intolerant of all men.
-- Voltaire

You'd think that, wouldn't you? What a shame it doesn't work out that way.

 

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