Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

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Ingersoll Day August 11th

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius Aug 12. 2 Replies

Robert Green Ingersoll (1833-1899)"When I became convinced that the universe is natural, that all the ghosts and gods are myths, there entered into my brain, into my soul, into every drop of my blood…Continue

Tags: fearless, joyous, freedom, Day, agnostic

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Jul 2. 3 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

Sam Harris on Morality and the Christian God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller May 24. 2 Replies

The debate between Sam Harris and William Lane Craig at Notre Dame in 2011 was particularly notable for one particular rebuttal by Harris to Craig, well into the debate.  Those 10 or so minutes…Continue

Big Bang vs Electric Universe, Lawrence Krauss' response

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Loren Miller May 23. 2 Replies

I wrote to Lawrence Krauss during the discussion of Big Bang vs Electric Universe:"Thurs, 5:54 PM, Lawrence, I belong to Atheist Nexus and a rather ugly debate began about the Big Bang Theory. One…Continue

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Comment by Joan Denoo on July 18, 2018 at 2:37pm

I can't find "probandi" in the dictionary; do you know its meaning?

Oh! I looked with Google and found it is a legal term:

"the burden of proof of which the defendant must prove affirmative defenses or mitigating circumstances in civil or criminal court. In civil court, aggravating circumstances also only have to be proven by a preponderance of the evidence, as opposed to beyond reasonable doubt (as they do in criminal court)."

Comment by Loren Miller on July 18, 2018 at 5:59am

God is an hypothesis, and, as such, stands in need of proof: the onus probandi rests on the theist.
-- Percy Bysshe Shelley

Actually, I have to disagree on one point. There is no scientific basis on which to hypothesize the existence of any god. Alleging a god's existence is a supposition at best, and a weak one at that.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 18, 2018 at 1:58am

"There is only one good, knowledge, and only one evil, ignorance."

~ Socrates, Quoted in Diogenes LaertiusVitae Philosophorum, 2.31 (translated by R D Hicks,1950).

Comment by Loren Miller on July 17, 2018 at 5:50am

The priests of the different religious sects ... dread the advance of science as witches do the approach of daylight, and scowl on the fatal harbinger announcing the subdivision of the duperies on which they live.
-- Thomas Jefferson

For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
-- John 3:20, KJV

You'd think that at least SOME believers would actually READ their own holy book and maybe pick up on some of this stuff. Apparently not...

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 16, 2018 at 10:27pm

Bill Warren has an excellent review of FP in his extraordinary Keep Watching the Skies - thoughtful, articulate and very snarky reviews of every sci-fi flick from the 50s through the mid-60s.

Yeah, and one of the many tragedies of our age is that now hubris is a feature, not a bug.

Comment by Loren Miller on July 16, 2018 at 10:14pm

I've had a DVD copy of Forbidden Planet for longer than I care to think, Bertold.  In fact, I watched it maybe a month or two ago, and its lesson is still strongly with me.  The shame is that Morbius was aware of his hubris at the end.

Dolt 45?  Not so much.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 16, 2018 at 10:03pm

Well there you hit the nail on the head, my friend. Our own nature is indeed what he was warning us about, and it's also what elected Dolt45.

If you don't believe me, viz. Forbidden Planet, best cheesy SF flick of the 50s.

Comment by Loren Miller on July 16, 2018 at 9:44pm

It doesn't take a lot to understand why George Orwell matters.  He was doing his damnedest to warn us about our own nature, whether it was Animal Farm or 1984.  The good news is that some of us were listening.  The bad news is that we weren't enough.  That doesn't change the fact that I'm still determined to fight.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 16, 2018 at 9:34pm
I'm sure George appreciates your kind offer, but if his mortal coil were unshuffled, I suspect he'd decline.

Have you read the Hitch's "Why Orwell Matters?" Good shit.
Comment by Loren Miller on July 16, 2018 at 9:06pm

And that, Bertold, is why we fight. As for Orwell, he can bite me.

 

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