Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

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Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo on Saturday. 2 Replies

The word “Permaculture” is the combination of the two words “permanent” and “agriculture.” It is a method of agricultural philosophy that allows gardeners to create and sustain growing food in a way…Continue

Tags: production, shelter, food, permaculture, Mollison

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Sep 10. 5 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

Will McAvoy's Rant: "America Is NOT the World's Greatest Country"

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 25. 3 Replies

Aaron Sorkin has a habit of swinging for the fences when he writes political commentary as entertainment for television.  This was first evinced in the network television series, The West Wing, and…Continue

Tags: The Newsroom, Will McAvoy, Aaron Sorkin

Ingersoll Day August 11th

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius Aug 12. 2 Replies

Robert Green Ingersoll (1833-1899)"When I became convinced that the universe is natural, that all the ghosts and gods are myths, there entered into my brain, into my soul, into every drop of my blood…Continue

Tags: fearless, joyous, freedom, Day, agnostic

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Comment by Patricia on August 24, 2018 at 6:22pm

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on August 24, 2018 at 6:03pm
“Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.”
― Aldous Huxley
Comment by Loren Miller on August 24, 2018 at 6:32am

Oh, Joan and Bertold, did you two ever trigger me! [giggle!]

We stood up for what was right. We fought for moral reasons. We passed laws, struck down laws - for moral reasons. We waged wars on poverty, not on poor people. We sacrificed, we cared about our neighbors, we put our money where our mouths were and we never beat our chest. We built great, big things, made ungodly technological advances, explored the universe, cured diseases and we cultivated the world's greatest artists AND the world's greatest economy. We reached for the stars, acted like men. We aspired to intelligence, we didn't belittle it. It didn't make us feel inferior. We didn't identify ourselves by who we voted for in the last election and we didn't scare so easy. We were able to be all these things and do all these things because we were informed... by great men, men who were revered. First step in solving any problem is recognizing there is one. America is not the greatest country in the world anymore. [emphasis mine]
-- Will McAvoy, The Newsroom, "We Just Decided To"

The above is an excerpt from a rant Jeff Daniels as the doyen and Jay Leno-esque news reporter gave in response to the question: "Why is America the greatest country in the world. It's a powerful enough statement that I will post the entire rant shortly.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on August 23, 2018 at 11:44pm

Ignorance held up as inspiration eloquently encapsulates the tragicomedy of our times. It nails the essence of the art of spinning a narrative.

And the frightening thing is how many of us fall for it, (which on any given day any of us can).

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 23, 2018 at 10:30pm

“I’m tired of ignorance held up as inspiration, where vicious anti-intellectualism is considered a positive trait, and where uninformed opinion is displayed as fact.”

― Philip Plait, "The Mainstreaming of Crazy". Blog at Discover magazine, blogs.discovermagazine.com. September 08, 2009.

Comment by Loren Miller on August 23, 2018 at 6:25am

It's a false and dangerous interpretation of the meaning of tolerance and respect that it entails granting validity to a claim with which one disagrees. Respect belongs only to people, and not to religions, political or economic systems, or any other set of ideas.
-- Justin Trottier

This to me expresses the difference between religious liberty, upon which the US was founded, and religious license, which believers think empowers them to superimpose their beliefs onto others.

Comment by Idaho Spud on August 22, 2018 at 8:43am

Two great quotes, Loren.

Comment by Loren Miller on August 22, 2018 at 5:49am

Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise, every expanded prospect.
-- James Madison

Or, as Christopher Hitchens more succinctly put it: "Religion Poisons Everything.

Comment by Loren Miller on August 21, 2018 at 7:11am

What is it that makes a person insist passionately on the existence of metaphysical realities that can be neither demonstrated nor refuted?
― Stephen Batchelor

I think it's called, "fear," Stephen

Comment by Loren Miller on August 20, 2018 at 5:51am

Morals — all correct moral laws — derive from the instinct to survive. Moral behavior is survival behavior above the individual level.
-- Robert A. Heinlein

My morality comes from a recognition that actions have consequences which can impact both me and the society I live in. As it happens, I care about that and the people I live with. Some people don't care for whatever reason, and because of that, we establish laws and standards of behavior which are designed to mitigate such aberrant behavior as best as can be managed in what is admittedly an imperfect society. I don't need a god for that, nor does anyone else.

Morality in the final analysis is a survival mechanism for society, which evolves from the society itself. If it works, the society survives, and if it doesn't, the society doesn't. It isn't a perfect system, but nothing in this world is perfect.

-- me

 

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